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Jun 30, 2008 20:56 |  #1

this is the next night game...C&C welcome
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Jun 30, 2008 20:57 |  #2

Nice shots, you seem to have a special look to these night shots, good work!


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Jun 30, 2008 21:05 |  #3

I think they turned real nice... thanks




  
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Jun 30, 2008 23:55 |  #4

Jimmy: These definitely provide a unique angle but some diversity would be nice. Let's see some batter faces from down the foul lines. Shot 6 and 3 don't really do much for me but they would if you could get them from the other side and see their faces. Also if you are going to shoot from this point, let's see some more of the pitchers and their delivery.

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Jul 01, 2008 06:48 |  #5

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if i were this kids parents this picture would be printed very large and framed, very nicely done!


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Jul 01, 2008 07:39 |  #6

if i were this kids parents this picture would be printed very large and framed, very nicely done!

I disagree.

I applaud your efforts, Jimmy, and your timing is good, but Chris is right - you need faces on these in order to make them much better shots.

Ever see anyone frame a portrait of the back of their kid's head? Or a family portrait of everybody turned away from the camera?

Well, this is pretty much the same thing. Sure there's action, and they might recognize their kid's number, or even recognize him from the way he stands, but as in most people photography, the face is the most important thing to capture.

Move farther down the foul lines, and don't focus so much on the ball. Ball in frame shots rarely yield a face. Try for the follow through, or get the batter coming out of the box, heading to first base.


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Jul 01, 2008 07:49 as a reply to  @ dmwierz's post |  #7

Jimmy -

This type of shot, to me, is like a school yearbook-type shot where they want action to demonstrate the team generally. Insofar as parents goes, and I speak as a mom, not a photog, I would never plop down money for a shot like this where my kid's face is not shown.

If you had a yearbook assignment, this type of work is good, for parents, no.

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Jul 01, 2008 10:07 as a reply to  @ pigtailpat's post |  #8

as a sports fan and a father, that picture is awesome and i would love to have an action shot like that of my daughter when she is that age. the face doesn't need to be in the picture to make it a great shot.


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Jul 01, 2008 12:06 |  #9

jimmy and hudson:

To further my comment and that of Dennis's and Pat's, here are a couple of shots that we are talking about for reference purposes. Judge for yourself, but personally I would prefer to have my kids face in the shot, even without ball in photo (BTW second photo was a HR swing).

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Jul 01, 2008 12:14 |  #10

I agree totally with Dennis, the shots would have a lot more impact if they showed the players face.

As for parents, it always amazes me what they buy and what they don't. I don't think I'll ever figure that question out.


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Jul 01, 2008 14:16 as a reply to  @ Sledhed's post |  #11

I too agree with Chris, Dennis, and Pat. I'll add that they seem a bit underexposed to me. I think you are off to a good start with these and hopefully the comments here help.


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Jul 01, 2008 15:38 |  #12

Looks like it was an early evening to night game. I'm about to head off to the same lighting condition for a game this evening. Any tips on how to handle the lighting?

I like #5 the best. Great mood to it.


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Jul 01, 2008 15:52 |  #13

alphonsis wrote in post #5829408 (external link)
Looks like it was an early evening to night game. I'm about to head off to the same lighting condition for a game this evening. Any tips on how to handle the lighting?

I like #5 the best. Great mood to it.

you'll have a tough time with your gear Im afraid. I'd get there as early as possible and shoot warmups too. You can get lots of what many of us call safety shots during that time. Watch your backgrounds and isolate the athletes and you'd never know they weren't in a game situation. This way, you have something to fall back on. You should have good light for a while but once it starts to drop, I'd put the gear away and enjoy the game. The 50mm is too short most likely and you will probably find light lacking for the 70-300 even at max ISO. That said, don't be afraid to try, you might surprise yourself or at worst, learn the limitations of your kit. A flash would also allow you to shoot into the night if you wanted.


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Jul 01, 2008 16:09 |  #14

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A flash would also allow you to shoot into the night if you wanted.

Not for baseball Scott!


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Jul 01, 2008 16:17 |  #15

Thanks for the info namasste.

This is purely as an exercise for myself and not as a job, nor to commemorate the game, so I don't have to worry about taking safety shots. =c)

In terms of gear, I'm guessing something like a telephoto 2.8 would allow me to get some shots?


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