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Jul 01, 2008 22:30 |  #1

How do you experienced avian photographers set your flash? Do you use the EC on the flash or use the power settings such as 1/16, 1/32, etc? I shoot with a Canon 30D, 100-400 and 430EX. I was attempting a shot of a stationary hummer yesterday, in deep shade. I was maybe about 12 feet away and set the flash at -3 EC. The flash was still a bit too powerfull at that range. Would I have been better off using the power settings and checking the distance, and then cutting back more, to avoid overpowering the ambient light?




  
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Jul 01, 2008 22:40 |  #2

What was your SS and ISO set at, in correlation to the Aperture? Posting an example with EXIF might help, too.


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Jul 02, 2008 02:13 |  #3

Last time out I forgot to change my flash into hi-sync mode.

I wondered for about 5 minutes why everything was horribly over-exposed, until I saw the shutter speed at 1/200, then did the whole roll-eyes thing at myself.




  
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Jul 02, 2008 07:30 as a reply to  @ Raikyn's post |  #4

ISO 800, F8, EC +1, 400mm and handheld at 1/30 second. As you can tell from the exif, I probably shouldn't have even attempted the shot, as dark as it was in this spot.


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Jul 02, 2008 07:52 |  #5

Is this hummer the same one you had a problem with? If so, here's 2 suggestions:

1/ Dont set EC to +1. If that's what you did, the camera will set an exposure setting that yields a +1 exposure to the entire image. In Av or Tv modes with a flash, the camera sets the exposure to be exactly what it would be without a flash - the flash then provides fill light. So if you set EC to +1, the whole image - subject and background - will be overexposed by 1 stop. That is what is causing the overexposure, not the flash.

Look at the background - it is too bright compared what you described it to be. The exposure setting which causes the background to be lit so much is also what is causing the bird to be overexposed.

Start with EC set to 0 and FEC to -1. Alternatively, use EC of -0.5 to -1 and FEC of 0.

In this particular case, as you have a dark background, use EC of -1 and set FEC to 0 or -0.5. That should sort it out, or be close enough as a starting point.

2/ In general, if you are overexposing with the flash, try using a lower ISO. That will reduce the sensitivity of the sensor to the flash.. which effectively serves the same purpose as lowering flash power.

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