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Jul 03, 2008 04:14 |  #1

I need a roller bag to hold the following, iddealy it will also have shoulder straps for use rarely. It MUST fit on airline carry on too for International AND Domestic.

I need it to hold:
1x 1D MkII
1x 40D with Grip
1x 17-35 f2.8 L
1x 24-70 f2.8 L
1x 70-200 f2.8 IS L
1x 85 f1.8
1x 300 f2.8 IS L
1x 1.4TC
1x 2TC
2x 580EX II Speedlights
2x CPE4 Battery Packs
1x OCE3 ETTL Cord
3x Pocket Wizard Plus IIs
2x Think Tank CF Card holders
Various cords etc

Rarely i may need to take my 100 Macro as well.


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Jul 03, 2008 06:59 |  #2

I think you can fit all of that into the Airport International, with another bag as carry on for maybe one camera with short lens. I travel with my 5D, 40D, 24-70, 70-200 2.8 IS, 2 flashes, 2 pwII's, 85 1.8, 50 1.4, 1.4 TC, and 17-40. Stuffed. If I am taking 2 bags, then I carry the Adventure 9 bag with laptop and 5D with 24-70 in there with all other accessories like CF cards, filters, etc. If you are talking fitting the carry on requirements for international travel, the Think Tanks are amazing and beautiful.


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Jul 03, 2008 07:01 |  #3

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I think you can fit all of that into the Airport International, with another bag as carry on for maybe one camera with short lens. I travel with my 5D, 40D, 24-70, 70-200 2.8 IS, 2 flashes, 2 pwII's, 85 1.8, 50 1.4, 1.4 TC, and 17-40. Stuffed. If I am taking 2 bags, then I carry the Adventure 9 bag with laptop and 5D with 24-70 in there with all other accessories like CF cards, filters, etc. If you are talking fitting the carry on requirements for international travel, the Think Tanks are amazing and beautiful.

Needs to all go in one carry on bag. I tend to carry on another small bag sometimes but its not always allowed in Australia.


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Jul 03, 2008 07:52 |  #4

If you are talking the largest bag possible, the Lowepro or Think Tank are the best out there. I would definitely buy the Airport International and whatever fits, fits and that's it. The restriction is there so you can't put more into that than there is room for. Miracles happen, but in this case, nope.


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Jul 03, 2008 07:55 |  #5

SuzyView wrote in post #5840706 (external link)
If you are talking the largest bag possible, the Lowepro or Think Tank are the best out there. I would definitely buy the Airport International and whatever fits, fits and that's it. The restriction is there so you can't put more into that than there is room for. Miracles happen, but in this case, nope.

Good point but will the Airport International be ok for DOMESTIC?


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Jul 03, 2008 09:08 |  #6

Yes. The Airport Security is the one that is ok for domestic, not ok for international. The International is perfect, fits in the overhead without any problems. It's not nearly as large as most US carry ons. What I like about it is that it doesn't scream "I HAVE REALLY EXPENSIVE ELECTRONIC STUFF IN HERE!" Looks just like a regular bag.


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Jul 03, 2008 09:14 |  #7

https://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthre​ad.php?t=373381

At the end of this thread, I have pictures to give you an idea of how big it is.


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Jul 03, 2008 15:30 |  #8

The kicker in your kit is the 300f2.8. Once you add a 300f2.8, even without the hood you have sucked up a lot of space. When I shot sports my 300f2.8 never had the OEM hood, I used a plumbing flexible rubber coupling as my hood (US$7 at any industrial plumbing supply house) to save significant space in my bag. When I needed to pack tight I'd pop it off and just stuff it in a backpack somewhere.

You should also consider how you pack, such as are you willing to 'stack your lenses or do you need them to be in individual slots? Personally I stack my gear. I know my gear does not needed to be heavily padded, just snug and secure.

From my knowledge of the Think Tank Airport International, which is legal for carry-on travel both domestic and international in Oz & Z what you want to pack cannot easily fit in the Think Tank Airport International The sheer amount of equipment you need to pack in a relatively small bag. When with the lens hood removed from the the 300f2.8 the circumference of the lens is substantial. While you can fit a 400f2.8 into this bag, it does not diminish the space absorbed by a 300f2.8. You need to be very creative in your spacial usage.

If you wanted to place your kit into this small bag you would need to build a custom divider set. It is possible, you buy two sets of dividers, and get creative in slicing & dicing dividers to meet your specific needs.

Your set up would have the 300f2.8 (no hood) laying horizontally on the bottom of the bag. A long diver wall would be laid over this lens horizontally. Against the outside wall, vertically at the deepest point over the 300f2.8 (over the mount) you'd place your 70-200f2.8 (look into the Nikon HN-28 mental screw in lens hood to save space). In the next vertical compartment you'd place your 24-70f2.8, place a small spacer at the top of the 24-70f2.8 then stack your 17-35f2.8.

In the space next to your 24-70f2.8/17-35f2.8, which is the space over the "fat end" over the 300f2.8, you'll place your Pocket Wizards and also purchase a Think Tank "Cable Management 10" for your loose cables.

Laying directly over the mount of the 300f2.8 you'd place a small padded divider in the horizontal position and stack the 85f1.8 (use a rubber flexible screw in filter to save space) over the mount. Directly next to the 85f1.8 you'd create a separate compartment and place the 2xTC & 1.4xTC stacked together,still over the mount of area of the 300f2.8.

Below the 70-200f2.8 you'll need to create a subspace made from dividers. In this space you'll fold your 580ex speedlights in the 90-degree positions and drop them into the subspace, with the ETTL cord.

Below the 24-70f2.8 & 17-35f2.8 you'll need to create an additional subspace made up from dividers. In this space you'll drop in your CP-E4 batteries. They should be thin enough to be stacked on top of each other with no significant space problems.

At the top of the bag you'll need to create two separate slots for your two bodies. There should be room to create a small "box" in the dividers for two MkII batteries.

You'll place your 40D batteries and Think Tank Pixel Pocket Rocket in the pockets on the front flap of the bag (the clear plastic zip pockets.


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Jul 03, 2008 15:38 |  #9

I think you need to ditch a large lens to fit it in any bag to meet restrictions.


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Jul 03, 2008 15:46 as a reply to  @ SuzyView's post |  #10

I was looking for a roller backpack for an upcoming trip to Alaska. The purpose of the pack would be to transport the gear through airports, carry on to planes and to keep the gear in while I am in Alaska. I will not be carrying my gear in this bag while I am shooting.

When I looked at the roller bags, I decided that the roller frame took up too much space in the backpack and decided to use a straight backpack - since I will only be carrying it through the airport and from car trunk to lodge or motel room.

I opted for the Lowepro Vertex 300 and I am amazed at the amount of gear it will hold. This is not my exact load for Alaska, just some gear which will give an indication of how much the Vertex 300 can accommodate.

I like having my two go-to lenses attached to my go-to cameras. That way, the setups are ready to shoot as I withdraw them from the back pack. I could accommodate more gear in this pack if I carried the cameras and lenses separately. But BOY! It would be heavy.


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Jul 03, 2008 15:51 |  #11

That's a great set-up. Now add PWII's, & battery packs.


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Jul 03, 2008 15:59 |  #12

Suzy

Out of curiosity why do you have an 80-200f2.8, 70-200f4, 70-200f2.8?


Also you folks should never pack your bodies with lenses attached when traveling.

1) A body/lens combo sucks up a lot of space
2) The weight of a lens attched to a body, especially that of a 70-200f2.8 (or 4) on a lens mount of any body should there be a sudden impact to the bag, you drop the roller handle, someone tosses their bag on top of yours, it needs to be 'valet checked' on a regional jet, etc can easily damage your body and lens. The effects of pressure over repeated small impacts can also cause other significant impact problems to your body and lens over time.

When packing you should not pack 'ready to run.' It is not practical. Even as a news photographer, when I shot breaking news 5 days a week for a wire service, I always packed my bodies independent of my lenses in my Domke F-2 bag. It takes only a split second to slap a lens on a body and anytime you're flying with a roller bag, should something happen in an instant on front of you, by the time you get in your bag, you've already missed the critical moment........so save space and SAVE YOUR EQUIPMENT and pack bodies and lenses independent of each other.


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Jul 03, 2008 18:25 |  #13

Thanks for the help guys but i cannot use non canon hoods, i just prefer them soooo much over non canon ones. I am more then happy to stack lenses too.
For those interested here are the Qantas baggage limits:
Australian and New Zealand Domestic All Classes:
2 x 105cm (41in) bags or
1 x 105cm (41in) bag plus 1 x 185cm (73in) non rigid garment bag or
1 x 115cm (45in) bag
All Dash aircrafts
1 x 105cm (41in) bag 4kg (9lb) total
All International First/Business/Premium Economy:
2 x 115cm (45in) bags or
1 x 115cm (45in) bag plus 1 x 185cm (73in) non rigid garment bag
Economy:
1 x 115cm (45in) bag or
1 x 185cm (73in) non rigid garment bag

105CM (41in) is described as:
48cm (19in) + 34cm (13in) + 23cm (9in) = 105cm (41in)
115CM (45in) is described as:
56cm (22in) + 36cm (14in) + 23cm (9in) = 115cm (45in)

So it looks like 45in is my largest allowed size.
Think Tank Sizes are:
Airport Airstream: 14" x 8" x 17.5" = 39.5"
Airport International: 14" x 8" x 21" = 43"
Airport Security V2.0: 14" x 9" x 22" = 45"

So to me it looks like the Airport Security is fine for all travel except dash aircrafts (Which i rarely go on)? Would i face issues with the Airport Security on US flights?


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Jul 03, 2008 18:50 |  #14

Only on very small planes that require all rolling luggage in bottom compartment as you walk to the plane you give it to the handler or put it in a rolling shelf thing that keeps everything in your site. The handlers will put those cases under, stowed away. I have never had a problem letting them have my Airport Security and I watch them as they put the luggage under the plane. We're talking planes that have 3 seats across, 2 right, 1 left of the center isle.


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Jul 03, 2008 18:54 |  #15

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Suzy

Out of curiosity why do you have an 80-200f2.8, 70-200f4, 70-200f2.8?



The 80-200 is a 20 year old lens and not f2.8. I bought it at some catalog store when I bought my first Rebel - the year it came out and EOS was new.

I have the 70-200 f4, my 3rd L lens. I love it. It's light and sharp and contrasty and colors are amazing, but not too useful for indoor concerts. Bought the 70-200 2.8 IS because Jon had one and showed it to me, the devil himself :);) and I saw Dave Terry had one, and let me shoot with it for a second, and then wedding pros here said it's totally necessary for weddings, etc., and I couldn't stand it! I bought it. I love it. It's heavy and fast and wonderful.

The real question is, why don't I sell the 70-200 f4 since I just got the 100-400? That lens is amazing!


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