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dmoneyisfine
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Jul 03, 2008 21:29 |  #1

Ok so I just use a simple Canon Rebel XT, its the 8mp one.
Im using the EF 50mm f1.8 lense.

Now my problem, if Im taking a shot of a singer on stage
there is more then enough lightin, and im at good range to
take the photo, but when I take it, it never turns out THAT crisp.

It will be almost pefect, but you can tell the SLIGHT blur or un focused
part was caused by the person, moving.

I was told how to fix this, somthing to do with the timming or somthing?

Im sorry if this is the most easiest most rookie thing out there, im just getting
into photography, and it has taken over my life, i dont know if thats good or
bad, but this problem is killing me




  
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Jul 03, 2008 21:38 |  #2

Post an example or two with the EXIF data intact..


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Jul 03, 2008 21:40 |  #3

Post an example or two with the EXIF data intact..

Without this its all guessing... post a pic and get great advice


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Jul 03, 2008 21:50 |  #4

Ya im very sorry, im uploading a perfect example of what the problem is.




  
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Jul 03, 2008 21:52 |  #5

Ok with this picture, the background is out of focus which is fine
and the girl is in focus, but im sure you will notice how its not the most crisp picture.
She was in the process of moving backwards at the time I belive.

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Jul 03, 2008 22:00 |  #6

You camera settings were : f1.8, ISO 1600, shutter 1/100 sec.

I've never used a Rebel XT, so I don't know how sharp it is at ISO 1600. That could be one factor. Subject moving, no flash, slower shutter are others.




  
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Jul 03, 2008 22:04 |  #7

DHancock wrote in post #5845456 (external link)
You camera settings were : f1.8, ISO 1600, shutter 1/100 sec.

I've never used a Rebel XT, so I don't know how sharp it is at ISO 1600. That could be one factor. Subject moving, no flash, slower shutter are others.

Well the no flash shouldnt be a issue, cause im going for the no natural look.
And with a f1.8 I dont need a flash, i think it has somthing to do with the shutter speed maybe?

Can I manualy adjust shutter speed when shooting in AV mode?




  
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Jul 03, 2008 22:08 |  #8

The shutter speed is a little slow for a moving subject. Plus, she is moving backwards, out of the focal plane and when shooting at f1.8, your depth of field is very small. Any movements forwards or backwards will quickly put your subject out of focus.




  
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Jul 03, 2008 22:11 |  #9

Flash would help to stop any motion. The f/1.8 is a large aperature, so more light will enter, so flash may not be required to capture the image. A slower shutter speed will also let more light in. I sometimes have trouble keeping still at 1/100 shutter speed.

In Av mode (aperature priority) you can change aperatures (the size of the lense opening to let light in) and the camera sets the shutter speed to make a correct exposure.




  
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Jul 03, 2008 22:18 |  #10

DHancock wrote in post #5845456 (external link)
You camera settings were : f1.8, ISO 1600, shutter 1/100 sec.

I've never used a Rebel XT, so I don't know how sharp it is at ISO 1600. That could be one factor. Subject moving, no flash, slower shutter are others.

The 350D/XT is sharp at 1600ISO.. I doubt this is the problem here.. F/1.8 would be a tad soft on most F/1.8 lenses.. Subject movement at 1/100sec??


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Jul 03, 2008 22:21 |  #11

Hmm, ok well my quesioned has been awnserd.
Thanks for the mature responses!!




  
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Jul 03, 2008 22:24 |  #12

To make things simple you can put the camera in TV mode and select 1/200 as your shutter speed if the shot is not possible (display blinks) or the result is not what you want then I think you can try at 1/100 and if that has no good results then you need to use a flash.

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Jul 03, 2008 23:33 |  #13

That posted shot was taken around 5-6' from the subject, for the frame to have that content. A 50mm f/1.8 lens would have DOF of only about 2.5" at a shooting distance of 6', so it would only take a modest bend at the waist after you focused, to throw the subject's eyes out of focus!


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Jul 03, 2008 23:46 |  #14

She backed up out of your depth of field. You probably shifted a little bit too.


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Jul 04, 2008 19:11 |  #15

dmoneyisfine wrote in post #5845484 (external link)
Well the no flash shouldnt be a issue, cause im going for the no natural look.
And with a f1.8 I dont need a flash, i think it has somthing to do with the shutter speed maybe?

Can I manualy adjust shutter speed when shooting in AV mode?

You can get a natural look with a flash... and it appears that @ f/1.8 you DO need a flash (because your subject is not sharp.

One other thing you might try is metering off the singer in spot meter mode (or your camera's closest equivalent).




  
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