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"S" curve - Still in Garmisch

 
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Jul 03, 2008 22:43 |  #1

This is walking up to the Klem(sp?) in Garmisch.

Marcia needs the computer, so I am not going to write a lot except to say that I was specificlly watching out for "S" curves where ever I could.

Oh, compression is really bad because of all the detail. Had to go down to 19% to keep it under 150kb.

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Jul 03, 2008 22:51 |  #2

Very nice. Love the horses along the curve.


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Jul 03, 2008 23:41 as a reply to  @ LeuceDeuce's post |  #3

It's called the Partnachklam, and this is a nice image. I like your other post as well, the one inside the gorge itself.

Also, if you change the dimensions of the image first to meet the forum requirements and then Save for the Web, you can save your files at a much higher quality and avoid compression artifacts and loss of detail. Works for me anyway. Give it a try.




  
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Jul 04, 2008 01:33 |  #4

pretty shot but i keep wanting the horse closer or just around first turn so we can see what its pulling.


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Jul 04, 2008 03:07 |  #5

Excellent composition but it would have more better if you had waited for the cart come more closer.
Cart being on the right side could have also made it balanced picture.

your viewon "S" curves is absolutely right.


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Jul 04, 2008 05:48 as a reply to  @ ghosh's post |  #6

Ah...the old "shoulda, woulda, coulda'.

We all should be blessed with 20/20 foresight rather than 20/20 hindsight.

As you said, a little busy, but a nice shot.


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Jul 04, 2008 09:55 |  #7

Walkingmanblues wrote in post #5846018 (external link)
It's called the Partnachklam, and this is a nice image. I like your other post as well, the one inside the gorge itself.

Also, if you change the dimensions of the image first to meet the forum requirements and then Save for the Web, you can save your files at a much higher quality and avoid compression artifacts and loss of detail. Works for me anyway. Give it a try.

Thank you very much. It was a wonderful sight and I liked the ski jump as well. Can you offer any insight as to the translation of the word "Partnachklam" - does it break down into smaller translatable words, or is it simply a proper name without any meaningful translation?

As to the compression, well, I do resize then use Save for Web - the problem is with so much detail (flowers and leafs) this particular shot does not compress well. That is why I had to take the quality way down.

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Jul 04, 2008 10:06 |  #8

howzitboy wrote in post #5846468 (external link)
pretty shot but i keep wanting the horse closer or just around first turn so we can see what its pulling.

ghosh wrote in post #5846776 (external link)
Excellent composition but it would have more better if you had waited for the cart come more closer.
Cart being on the right side could have also made it balanced picture.

your viewon "S" curves is absolutely right.

chauncey wrote in post #5847149 (external link)
Ah...the old "shoulda, woulda, coulda'.

We all should be blessed with 20/20 foresight rather than 20/20 hindsight.

As you said, a little busy, but a nice shot.

Take a look at THIS EFFORT on the same shot. Marcia and I have an agreement. I can take as many photographs as I want - she has the right to say when it's time to move on. I can live with that, so we didn't wait for the horses.

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Jul 04, 2008 13:00 |  #9

Radtech1 wrote in post #5848103 (external link)
Thank you very much. It was a wonderful sight and I liked the ski jump as well. Can you offer any insight as to the translation of the word "Partnachklam" - does it break down into smaller translatable words, or is it simply a proper name without any meaningful translation?

As to the compression, well, I do resize then use Save for Web - the problem is with so much detail (flowers and leafs) this particular shot does not compress well. That is why I had to take the quality way down.

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Partnach + Klamm = gorge of the river Partnach. The city of course takes its name from the name of the river. Like I said earlier I really like the image you have taken from inside the gorge itself. I've got a similar image--though not as well done--hanging on our staircase wall:-)

I misunderstood you earlier. I thought you were trying to convert full size images into jpegs and thus had to crank the quality down. Sorry:o




  
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Jul 06, 2008 10:12 |  #10

just to be the voice of dissent in here, I can't think of a better place for the horse and cart to be. If you had waited for it to get closer to the hut, there would have been too much weight in the center of the image, which would have thrown things way out of balance (to my eye at least), and waiting for it to advance to the right of the frame would have resulted in you having to reframe to avoid cropping the horses' heads off, which would have destroyed the lines you were looking to achieve.

I actually *like* the horse and cart in the distance. I think the only thing that would have made it better for me was if the cart was going in the opposite direction, so that it had a feeling of leaving the frame rather than coming into it. Still, good luck with making that happen :D So, as shot, I like this.




  
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Jul 06, 2008 23:18 |  #11

howzitboy wrote in post #5846468 (external link)
pretty shot but i keep wanting the horse closer or just around first turn so we can see what its pulling.

ghosh wrote in post #5846776 (external link)
Excellent composition but it would have more better if you had waited for the cart come more closer.
Cart being on the right side could have also made it balanced picture.

your viewon "S" curves is absolutely right.

chauncey wrote in post #5847149 (external link)
Ah...the old "shoulda, woulda, coulda'.

We all should be blessed with 20/20 foresight rather than 20/20 hindsight.

As you said, a little busy, but a nice shot.

That is sort of what I was thinking.

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just to be the voice of dissent in here, I can't think of a better place for the horse and cart to be. If you had waited for it to get closer to the hut, there would have been too much weight in the center of the image, which would have thrown things way out of balance (to my eye at least), and waiting for it to advance to the right of the frame would have resulted in you having to reframe to avoid cropping the horses' heads off, which would have destroyed the lines you were looking to achieve.

I actually *like* the horse and cart in the distance. I think the only thing that would have made it better for me was if the cart was going in the opposite direction, so that it had a feeling of leaving the frame rather than coming into it. Still, good luck with making that happen :D So, as shot, I like this.

I saw Rad's other post first ... the one without the horse and cart and in my imagination, I put the horse and cart precisely where it happens to be in this image ... any closer and it would overwhelm the image rather than being a point of interest drawing me further into the image.

So, I agree with you except that I can't understand the idea of wanting to see a horse's ... uh ... fanny. :oops:


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Jul 07, 2008 00:37 |  #12

Well, its "fanny" would be tastefully obscured by the cart ;)

I just think in one of those *perfect* scenarios, the idea of being led out of the frame, figuratively speaking, by the horse and cart, would have more of a timelss feel to it. If you look at any classic old paintings or photographs with subjects in the distance, a lot of the time you'll find the subject heading out of the frame as opposed to approaching it. I think the reason for that is it becomes a natural punctuation point as you approash the horizon and helps to emphasize the journey your eyes take along the road from the foreground to the vanishing point. I dunno, I'm struggling to describe what I mean without sounding all arty and pretentious ;)

It's a moot point anyway, just one of those little things where in a perfect world I would have liked to have seen it.

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Jul 07, 2008 13:26 |  #13

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..... If you look at any classic old paintings .....

Those old artists were probably using Noink brushes. ;)


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Jul 10, 2008 11:01 |  #14

hey there-

i was looking at your photo in photoshop and i thought it would make a better black and white. it helps to quiet a lot of the problems i was having with the colors not getting along.




  
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