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Ouch: Nikon just became the #1 DSLR maker

 
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Jul 07, 2008 10:51 |  #31

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no wonder my cameras don't work as well as they did last week.

one of mine is at Canon's Service Repair Center. :(


actually, Nikon's been kicking sand in Canon's face for the last 8 months or so now...i hope Canon starts kicking back.


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Jul 07, 2008 17:15 |  #32

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I'm not actually suprised.

but this will only make canon want to work harder to regain there position.

They may want to, but can they afford to. In a down economy these kinds of things could, potentially, not be affordable to recover and the company may not perceive a change in position like this as worthy of an investment.

I've seen lot's of computer companies (HW) lose market share and keep on sliding...


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Jul 07, 2008 23:39 |  #33

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They may want to, but can they afford to. In a down economy these kinds of things could, potentially, not be affordable to recover and the company may not perceive a change in position like this as worthy of an investment.

I've seen lot's of computer companies (HW) lose market share and keep on sliding...

That is true. Let's hope for the best.


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Jul 08, 2008 00:15 as a reply to  @ Boucher's post |  #34

Hey, we could benefit from this. Maybe they'll drop the prices back to at least what they were to try and spark a few more sales.

Another big thing is that Nikon just started doing a lot of television marketing and I rarely see a Canon commercial. I'm sure that doesn't help either... Just a few thoughts...


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Jul 08, 2008 02:37 |  #35

I think in the US Canon still leads in sales. I heard that Nikon overtook Canon in dslr sales in Japan a long time ago.
Here are some stats for the US from PopPhoto
http://www.popphoto.co​m …selling-digital-slrs.html (external link)
http://www.popphoto.co​m …gital-slrs-for-march.html (external link)
http://www.popphoto.co​m …ing-digital-compacts.html (external link)

Personally, I wish Oly/Panasonic, Pentax, and Sony and to a lesser degree Nikon gain more market share as competition from a diverse source will serve to deliver better products at a lower cost than just two giants fighting it out.


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Jul 08, 2008 02:56 as a reply to  @ post 5854124 |  #36

The way I see it, logistically,

People only spend as much on their camera's as they care about their photography.
P&S = Cheap convenience, and the photos come out as good as they want.
DSLR = Customisability and ultimate control for a passionate photographer. Not a cheap hobby however.

But hey, I don't give a flying **** if Nikon outsell Canon, I don't see why anybody should care - except for Canon of course. I consider myself a loyal and happy customer - and that's the way it should be.

Honestly, I doubt that people who went to Nikon actually tried a Canon. Honestly, they feel natural and so much better, they have a better lens range, full support system, reliable, leading market competetor. What's the issue?

This isn't a...
These guys sell more, so they must be better. It's not a debate for anybody who see's it this way. Are you happy with your Canon? Why change?

I'm sorry this was aimed at people who actually care that Nikon outsold Canon by 0.1%


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Jul 08, 2008 03:25 |  #37

Exactly as you said fubarhouse. :)
I`m not a shareholder of nikon and canon so I don`t give a c**p about that.
I tried and used both, my heart wanted Nikon, but my wallet could afford only Canon.




  
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Jul 08, 2008 05:34 |  #38

Tee Why wrote in post #5870262 (external link)
Personally, I wish Oly/Panasonic, Pentax, and Sony and to a lesser degree Nikon gain more market share as competition from a diverse source will serve to deliver better products at a lower cost than just two giants fighting it out.

My thoughts exactly. I would love to see a DSLR version of the original Olympus OM-4Ti or Contax RTS III film cameras.




  
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Jul 08, 2008 07:35 |  #39

Of course one's pictures don't get worse just because Nikon pulls ahead. What hurts, though is this: some of us have invested quite some money in Canon compatible lenses, and the price for these on the used market will go severely down if the market share of Canon falls behind. It's as simple as this: 3 years ago I had a hard time finding decent lenses on the used market, now the market is flooded with them.

It's like the housing crisis: your house doesn't get worse from falling housing prices, but some folks do have a problem now.


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Jul 08, 2008 07:59 |  #40

Rudeofus wrote in post #5871127 (external link)
Of course one's pictures don't get worse just because Nikon pulls ahead. What hurts, though is this: some of us have invested quite some money in Canon compatible lenses, and the price for these on the used market will go severely down if the market share of Canon falls behind. It's as simple as this: 3 years ago I had a hard time finding decent lenses on the used market, now the market is flooded with them.

It's like the housing crisis: your house doesn't get worse from falling housing prices, but some folks do have a problem now.

Isn't that a good thing?




  
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Jul 08, 2008 08:12 |  #41

Roy Mathers wrote in post #5871255 (external link)
Isn't that a good thing?


I think so.


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Jul 08, 2008 09:22 |  #42

Roy Mathers wrote in post #5871255 (external link)
Isn't that a good thing?

If you need lenses, it's great. If you already have some lenses, it's less than good. Just look at all these whiners who scream at the top of their lungs that their EF50 F/1.4 is the best lens in existence and that the 100-400L can't be possibly beat, just because Sigma brought in some serious competition ....


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Jul 08, 2008 09:23 |  #43

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My thoughts exactly. I would love to see a DSLR version of the original Olympus OM-4Ti or Contax RTS III film cameras.

Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! :-P

Canon was a distant second to Nikon for decades, then finally managed to sneak past with the dSLR. Does anyone ever doubt that a company which dominated the pro SLR market for so long, would remain an underdog forever?! And does it really matter who trails whom, if the company's products provide what YOU NEED???


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Jul 08, 2008 09:36 |  #44

Personally, I buy my gear to shoot photos.

Should I need to sell one of my lenses to finance another, and I don't get as much because of this supposed over-saturation of the used market, then so be it.

I doubt this would happen anytime soon.

Rudeofus wrote in post #5871127 (external link)
Of course one's pictures don't get worse just because Nikon pulls ahead. What hurts, though is this: some of us have invested quite some money in Canon compatible lenses, and the price for these on the used market will go severely down if the market share of Canon falls behind. It's as simple as this: 3 years ago I had a hard time finding decent lenses on the used market, now the market is flooded with them.

It's like the housing crisis: your house doesn't get worse from falling housing prices, but some folks do have a problem now.




  
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Jul 08, 2008 11:27 |  #45

Oh dear! *nervous foot tapping* This is bound to affect the Image Quality of my 5D and 20D any minute now...*covers their ears affectionately so as not to hear the dreadful news* :)




  
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