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Jul 10, 2008 16:35 |  #1

Bases loaded, infield in, 2-1 game, potential tying run on third, late in the game, ground ball to short, throw to home, force play at the plate in order, and...

1. Ball just above runners helmet (sorry for the tough lighting conditions!)

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As I did not catch the exact defining moment, what would your call be? Safe or out? I'll let a few guesses go by first and then let you know what the ump called.

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Jul 10, 2008 16:37 |  #2

well done

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Jul 10, 2008 16:43 |  #3

Hmmm.. force play you said - can't tell by this angle if the catcher's foot has lifted off the plate - that would be the defining point I think...

My guess = safe

BTW - I used to play in that league in the late 60's early 70's
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Jul 10, 2008 16:46 as a reply to  @ Zoodles's post |  #4

I'll go with safe too.


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Jul 10, 2008 16:53 as a reply to  @ LuckyStar08's post |  #5

I think he is safe but I am more interested in the champagne bottle near the catchers right foot in #2.:D


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Jul 10, 2008 16:55 as a reply to  @ LuckyStar08's post |  #6

I'd say safe.


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Jul 10, 2008 17:05 |  #7

kona77 wrote in post #5888037 (external link)
I think he is safe but I am more interested in the champagne bottle near the catchers right foot in #2.:D

Yah - I noticed that too!!!! Wassup>??


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Jul 10, 2008 17:08 |  #8

The foot is closer to the plate than the ball is to the glove, but the ball is likely travelling faster than the runner.

Blue looking comfortable behind the plate, not even in a crouch....just waiting to hear the pop in the mitt...so he thinks it's obvious.

Check that the catcher held the ball....runner's out.


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Jul 10, 2008 17:11 |  #9

kona77 wrote in post #5888037 (external link)
I think he is safe but I am more interested in the champagne bottle near the catchers right foot in #2.:D

It was thrown by a parent anticipating a bad call from the ump.


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Jul 10, 2008 17:16 |  #10

cstewart wrote in post #5888151 (external link)
It was thrown by a parent anticipating a bad call from the ump.

Really??!!


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Jul 10, 2008 17:22 as a reply to  @ Zoodles's post |  #11

I'll say safe and the champagne bottle is an aluminum bat :)


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Jul 10, 2008 17:25 |  #12

That's what I originally thought but the OP fooled me!!!!!


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Jul 10, 2008 17:25 |  #13

I'll agree with Darsk... O-U-T


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Jul 10, 2008 17:33 |  #14

Ok enough suspension...from where I saw it, which was right next to the red team dugout, and the way they saw it, and the way pretty much everyone else in the park saw it, the runner beat the throw, however, just as Darsk nailed it above, the umpire did not see it that way and called him out. In my opinion bad call, but hey what can you do.

And yes, that is the bat lying on the ground, NOT a champagne bottle.

Now for some technical stuff. THis game was really challenging to shoot as the light was harsh at this time of day/night. If you shot from 3B side you were shooting right into sun. From 1B side, the plate was harsh sun at start, then shadows, then shadows but with harsh sun on fence and fans essentially creating a big backlight...also, fences are all high so unless you are on the field (not much room) you are always shooting through one. This shot was through the fence and I was pretty much right next to first base. If you want to see what I mean, please feel free to go to http://www.cjscons.com​/ghbaseball/jul9 (external link) and view the whole series.


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Jul 10, 2008 18:40 as a reply to  @ cstewart's post |  #15

Prolly a "I should know better" question, but when shooting through the fence, did you have to remove the hood?

I looked at your gallery. NICE! I've been shooting sons little league games but usually find that I get caught up watching the action and forget to take pictures. :o


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