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Ray Flash Ring Adapter and Focus Assist

 
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Jul 11, 2008 09:58 |  #1

Hi guys and girls,

I just ordered a Ray Flash [http://www.expoimaging​.net …duct_detail.php​?prodid=15 (external link)] but realise that it blocks the focus assist beam.

Does anyone know how I can go round that in low light situations?

I am thinking about using a couple of mirrors to refirect the beam perhaps.

Anyone has experience with this?

Many thanks

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Jul 11, 2008 15:09 |  #2

I don't have experience with that, but it will be a nightmare to figure out the reflective angles of the mirrors over different distances.

How do people shoot in low light without flash? Use fast glass.


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Jul 11, 2008 22:40 |  #3

The focus assist beam works so long as the beam hits the subject. I have used the off camera cord with the flash and the focus beam works fine so long as I point the flash at the subject. I would imagine a pair of parallel 45 degrees mirrors would redirect the beam around the blockage.

I know fast glasses exist but I am thinking of using it in a bar where even the fastest of glass would struggle and it is not possible to set up studio lights. And even with a fast glass the depth of field would be too shallow for what I want to do anyway.




  
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Jul 11, 2008 23:52 |  #4

Might be real interesting to make an external AF Assist light on a cable that plugs into the flash, and then can mount, say on the front panel of the Ray Flash, or anywhere else for that matter!


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Jul 12, 2008 00:34 as a reply to  @ jmb4370's post |  #5

did you receive it yet? Let's see some shots!


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Jul 18, 2008 17:27 |  #6

I have a thought. Snap it on with 180 degree twist. It will be like an angel ring flash!!! ;)


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Jul 19, 2008 03:47 |  #7

Sorry guys, I love in the UK and ordered from the US so I have yet to receive the adaptor.

Shame, I am going camping later today and was really looking forward to playing with it out in the open.




  
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Jul 19, 2008 09:06 |  #8

jmb4370 wrote in post #5895962 (external link)
Might be real interesting to make an external AF Assist light on a cable that plugs into the flash, and then can mount, say on the front panel of the Ray Flash, or anywhere else for that matter!

This sounds really interesting. I wouldn't have a clue to go about it though. How hard would it be?




  
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Jul 30, 2008 18:36 |  #9

What's the verdict?


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Aug 29, 2008 11:08 |  #10

Did you check with Expoimaging in the first place? (831) 761-2040 (USA) or use the contact form at www.expodisc.com/conta​ctus/ (external link) then report back here please.




  
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Aug 29, 2008 23:27 |  #11

300 bucks for that? yuk... for just 100 more you can get a normal alien bee ring flash... the only thing ray flash going for it is portability. I'd be all over it for $50 bucks... but not at 300.


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Oct 18, 2008 22:17 |  #12

alexg wrote in post #6207260 (external link)
300 bucks for that? yuk... for just 100 more you can get a normal alien bee ring flash... the only thing ray flash going for it is portability. I'd be all over it for $50 bucks... but not at 300.

You say that like it's completely insignificant. Maybe for you and some others, but the portability is its most attractive feature, IMO.


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Oct 18, 2008 22:29 |  #13

but if you think about it

rayflash - $300
580exII - $420
total - $720 plus shipiing

ABR800 - $400
vagabond - $300
total - $700 plus shipping

with the ABR800 you get tons more power but lose ettl




  
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Oct 18, 2008 23:15 |  #14

SnlpeR wrote in post #6520400 (external link)
but if you think about it

rayflash - $300
580exII - $420
total - $720 plus shipiing

ABR800 - $400
vagabond - $300
total - $700 plus shipping

with the ABR800 you get tons more power but lose ettl

i don't really consider the 580ex II into the pricing as i already had the 580ex ii before i bought my ray flash. that and i can still use the 580ex ii alone, without the ray flash. for me, the 580ex ii is a sunk cost. with or without the ray flash, i would have bought the 580ex ii, anyway. so if you REALLY think about it, for me at least, 580ex ii + abr800 + vagabond = a lot of $$$.


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Oct 18, 2008 23:53 as a reply to  @ v35skyline's post |  #15

^^^ thats a good point too

my buddy has the rayflash and i personally cant see myself paying $300 for it
it even dropps down when you go to portrait orientation
i can see myself using it for fun shoots...but i dont think ill take it out for paid shoots

i guess you get more oomph from the ABR800...its just not as portable and easy to use as the rayflash


omg and i just found out how much the quantum battery pack is for th 580exII
almost $450!




  
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