1st Time Semi Pro Footbal(USA) @ Night

Ok wife's brother plays in league. They made the 150 mile drive up near us so we went and I shot abot 500 images. the 1d Mark IIn did well but did not go above 1600 ISO used the 70-200 F2.8 IS and underexpose 1/3 to 2/3 to keep shutter up? What else could I do with this set up????
THANKS I will add mor samples also!!!!!

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Another that is her brother pressuring the QB number 9!!!

I would have shot ISO 3200 and exposed correctly rather than shooting at 1600 and underexposing.

Gatorboy wrote in post #5903079
I would have shot ISO 3200 and exposed correctly rather than shooting at 1600 and underexposing.

SO you think the extra grain would have been OK, I dont have noise ninja? Maybe I should buy it down the road....
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News,

Your timing is pretty good, but most of these aren't the sharpest. Actually, on one of the night shots (#2) your shutter speed was OK (1/640s) but the shot still isn''t crisp. On others you shutter speed is WAY too low (1/250s - 1/320s), plus, you have -1/3 stop EC: why was this? Your shots are already underexposed - I'm guessing this was a mistake?

The daytime shots are a little better, though the timing on 4 is too late, and 5 should be taken from the end of the field (or wait for the runner to turn your way) so we'd be able to see his face. Also, watch your horizons; 3 and 4 or a little off, and 5 is quite a bit tilted.

To answer your question, yes, Noise Ninja is worthwhile. Shooting at ISO1600 is a piece of cake, and even ISO3200 is acceptable.

Also, I would never shoot night football without a flash unless it was at an NCAA/Pro stadium (where flash isn't allowed, anyway). The light is just too dim to make it worth my time.

dmwierz wrote in post #5903674
News,

Your timing is pretty good, but most of these aren't the sharpest. Actually, on one of the night shots (#2) your shutter speed was OK (1/640s) but the shot still isn''t crisp. On others you shutter speed is WAY too low (1/250s - 1/320s), plus, you have -1/3 stop EC: why was this? Your shots are already underexposed - I'm guessing this was a mistake?

The daytime shots are a little better, though the timing on 4 is too late, and 5 should be taken from the end of the field (or wait for the runner to turn your way) so we'd be able to see his face. Also, watch your horizons; 3 and 4 or a little off, and 5 is quite a bit tilted.

To answer your question, yes, Noise Ninja is worthwhile. Shooting at ISO1600 is a piece of cake, and even ISO3200 is acceptable.

Also, I would never shoot night football without a flash unless it was at an NCAA/Pro stadium (where flash isn't allowed, anyway). The light is just too dim to make it worth my time.

OK thanks for the input! I don't normally do this, and haven't watched football since 1993 or so. It was sorta weird timing and all. I was worried about shutter that is why I underexposed slightly to bring it up. I can actually bump them more but the whites are reading almost 230 which is a good number. But faces are dark. Will have to try using 3200 and see? The rear LCD appeared "GRAINY" at 1600 so didn't want to risk it! Guess a 200 F1.8 would be good...
Also needed better vantage points as you said. I will load 100% crops of night shots. I used the PS3 noise reduction and made detail low on some so that may effect sharpness I think? I didn't know a flash was OK....

Here is a 800 by 800 100% crop no noise reduction just curves... and sharpen! Does look soft??

News - that's not bad for a 100% crop. I'd be glad to run NN on your image if you'd post an unedited shot (hosted elsewhere otherwise you'll exceed the POTN limit) - even one at reduced size like 400K.

Flash isn't always OK. Here in Illinois, it's allowed up to and including the HS level - at least usually. I've never been asked to not use flash in over 100 HS games, but I've heard others have.

Dennis knows his sports....listen and learn!

Shameless plug!

dmwierz wrote in post #5904203
News - that's not bad for a 100% crop. I'd be glad to run NN on your image if you'd post an unedited shot (hosted elsewhere otherwise you'll exceed the POTN limit) - even one at reduced size like 400K.

Flash isn't always OK. Here in Illinois, it's allowed up to and including the HS level - at least usually. I've never been asked to not use flash in over 100 HS games, but I've heard others have.

OK will stick a full sized unedit on my SMUGMUG account tomorrow and put a link to it.
THANKS

dmwierz wrote in post #5904203
News - that's not bad for a 100% crop. I'd be glad to run NN on your image if you'd post an unedited shot (hosted elsewhere otherwise you'll exceed the POTN limit) - even one at reduced size like 400K.

Flash isn't always OK. Here in Illinois, it's allowed up to and including the HS level - at least usually. I've never been asked to not use flash in over 100 HS games, but I've heard others have.

Dennis, I got 3 images loaded full size. just choose traditional and tell it what size you want to see.
http://downhillnews.sm​ugmug.com …?c=1#332042943_​7Vwx3-A-LB

THANKS

don't be scared shoot 3200...lol "remember bad lighting is my middle name"

I recently wrote a blog entry with how I shoot and setup for football at night with flash.

Night Football with Flash

Gatorboy wrote in post #5960379
I recently wrote a blog entry with how I shoot and setup for football at night with flash.

Night Football with Flash

OK cool!
Will check it out.