locky Goldmember  2,663 posts Likes: 1 Joined Sep 2006 Location: Montague, Michigan More info | Jul 19, 2008 06:48 | #1  Permanent banHi, What would your advice be for shooting a subject and trying not to have a blown out sky? Here's a sample picture. Thanks for any help.  HOSTED PHOTO please log in to view hosted photos in full size. I just got my first pair of glasses that I didn't think I needed. I apologize to anybody in the past year that I said their pictures were out of focus lol.
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neumanns Goldmember  1,465 posts Likes: 1 Joined Feb 2007 Location: North Centeral Minnesota More info | Jul 19, 2008 06:59 | #2 Reflector or flash... Looks like the sky was almost there, may could have underexposed a stop and then brought her back up in PP. 7D, Sigma 8-16, 17-55, 70-200 2.8 IS, 580ExII, ........Searching for Talent & Skill; Will settle for Blind Luck!
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elysium "full of stupid banter"  11,619 posts Likes: 1 Joined Jul 2007 Location: Harrow/London/UK/GB/That Part Of The World/Next To France More info | Jul 19, 2008 07:00 | #3 neumanns wrote in post #5940950  Reflector or flash... Looks like the sky was almost there, may could have underexposed a stop and then brought her back up in PP. Yeah. Fill flash also could be useful for this. Everyday, a programmer finds a way of creating an idiotproof program. Everyday, the universe spits out another idiot.....So far, the universe if winning
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Gatorboy Goldmember  2,483 posts Likes: 2 Joined May 2005 Location: Bel Air, MD More info | Jul 19, 2008 07:04 | #4 Expose for the sky and use flash to fill in the shadow areas, in this case it would be your subject. Dave Hoffmann
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locky THREAD STARTER Goldmember 2,663 posts Likes: 1 Joined Sep 2006 Location: Montague, Michigan More info | Jul 19, 2008 07:39 | #5 Permanent banThis might sound stupid but how would one expose for the sky with the XT. I just got my first pair of glasses that I didn't think I needed. I apologize to anybody in the past year that I said their pictures were out of focus lol.
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neumanns Goldmember 1,465 posts Likes: 1 Joined Feb 2007 Location: North Centeral Minnesota More info | Jul 19, 2008 07:41 | #6 "M" 7D, Sigma 8-16, 17-55, 70-200 2.8 IS, 580ExII, ........Searching for Talent & Skill; Will settle for Blind Luck!
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Vetteography Goldmember  2,032 posts Likes: 1 Joined Apr 2005 Location: Miami FL, USA More info | Jul 19, 2008 08:06 | #7 locky wrote in post #5941056 This might sound stupid but how would one expose for the sky with the XT. If you have a flash, the easiest way is to put the camera on, say AV, aim past the model to the brighter part of the sky, push the shutter release half way so the camera meters for the brighter light, then hit the AE Lock button (the *). Recompose, focus on the model and shoot. Your flash will light the subject.
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WilliamL Goldmember  1,200 posts Likes: 1 Joined Jul 2006 Location: Mississippi Gulf Coast More info | Jul 19, 2008 12:09 | #8 ok my question is this... I set my camera to "M" meter the bright sky and set everything... OK .. I have a 588EX flash.. now would I incress the power, leave it at 0, or decress the power for the fill? I've been fighting this and I never can get it just right.. 7D * 40D/w 24-70 L * 20D*17-85 mm*Canon 100-400L IS *Canon 70-300mm*580EX
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sgogula Senior Member 786 posts Likes: 5 Joined Aug 2007 Location: Dallas, TX More info | Jul 19, 2008 22:36 | #9 WilliamL wrote in post #5942125 ok my question is this... I set my camera to "M" meter the bright sky and set everything... OK .. I have a 588EX flash.. now would I incress the power, leave it at 0, or decress the power for the fill? I've been fighting this and I never can get it just right.. I have the same question. Let's see what experts would say about this. Canon 5D III | Canon 24-70 L II | Canon 50D | Canon 70-200 2.8 L IS II | Sigma 17-50 OS | Canon 50mm f1.8 II | 580,430 EX II Speedlite
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pridash Goldmember  3,584 posts Likes: 34 Joined Jul 2007 Location: London, UK - Where 30 degrees celcius is considered a heatwave and liable to result in death. More info | Jul 20, 2008 05:46 | #10 To get a richer blue sky, the best thing to do is meter for the sky,then underexpose by 1 stop and then add 1 stop to Flash Exposure Compensation in ETTL mode. Pradeep (but most people call me PJ)
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JeffreyG "my bits and pieces are all hard"  More info | Jul 20, 2008 07:22 | #11 WilliamL wrote in post #5942125 ok my question is this... I set my camera to "M" meter the bright sky and set everything... OK .. I have a 588EX flash.. now would I incress the power, leave it at 0, or decress the power for the fill? I've been fighting this and I never can get it just right.. The flash exposure is totally seperate from the ambient exposure. You control the ambient with ISO, shutter speed and aperture. Set this so the sky does not blow out. My personal stuff:http://www.flickr.com/photos/jngirbach/sets/
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Sickness Senior Member 333 posts Joined May 2007 Location: Kalamazoo, MI More info | Jul 20, 2008 09:18 | #12 Will this work with a camera without a xxxEX flash unit? The only one I have is the one that pops up on the camera and I get this problem sometimes. I want a rich blue sky and after taking the picture it's completely white. Canon 20D
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JeffreyG "my bits and pieces are all hard" More info | Jul 20, 2008 09:22 | #13 Sickness wrote in post #5946797 Will this work with a camera without a xxxEX flash unit? The only one I have is the one that pops up on the camera and I get this problem sometimes. I want a rich blue sky and after taking the picture it's completely white. Yes, you can fill with the onboard flash. The only serious limitation is that you cannot high speed synch with the onboard. This means in bright light you will probably need to shoot the portrait stopped down pretty far and so the DOF will be large. This can be a good thing depending on what the background is, so experiment with it. My personal stuff:http://www.flickr.com/photos/jngirbach/sets/
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Vetteography Goldmember 2,032 posts Likes: 1 Joined Apr 2005 Location: Miami FL, USA More info | Jul 20, 2008 09:23 | #14 What software are you using to process your shots? If you have one that let's you do masking, then you could still expose for the background, use the on-camera flash to light up the subject and then do some adjusting afterwards.
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Sickness Senior Member 333 posts Joined May 2007 Location: Kalamazoo, MI More info | Jul 20, 2008 09:29 | #15 JeffreyG wrote in post #5946808 Yes, you can fill with the onboard flash. The only serious limitation is that you cannot high speed synch with the onboard. This means in bright light you will probably need to shoot the portrait stopped down pretty far and so the DOF will be large. This can be a good thing depending on what the background is, so experiment with it. Just to clarify, when you say "stopped down pretty far" does that have anything to do with changing the shutter speed / aperture or is:
the -2, -1, 0, 1, 2 ? Canon 20D
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