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[NEWS] Death of Free Internet is Imminent, Canada Will Become Test Case

 
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Jul 21, 2008 23:29 |  #1

If you believe it or not, make sure to make your voice HEARD!!!! pass this one, true or not, i know it has been said before to be done, but Bell being 2nd to rogers in Toronto Canada for internet, it is possible...

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Death of Free Internet is Imminent
Canada Will Become Test Case

by Kevin Parkinson

July 20, 2008

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However, when there are potential profits open to a corporation, the needs of society don't count. Take the recent case in Canada with the behemoths, Telus and Rogers rolling out a charge for text messaging without any warning to the public. It was an arrogant and risky move for the telecommunications giants because it backfired. People actually used Internet technology to deliver a loud and clear message to these companies and that was to scrap the extra charge. The people used the power of the Internet against the big boys and the little guys won.


However, the issue of text messaging is just a tiny blip on the radar screens of Telus and another company, Bell Canada, the two largest Internet Service Providers (ISP'S) in Canada. Our country is being used as a test case to drastically change the delivery of Internet service forever. The change will be so radical that it has the potential to send us back to the horse and buggy days of information sharing and access.

In the upcoming weeks watch for a report in Time Magazine that will attempt to smooth over the rough edges of a diabolical plot by Bell Canada and Telus, to begin charging per site fees on most Internet sites. The plan is to convert the Internet into a cable-like system, where customers sign up for specific web sites, and then pay to visit sites beyond a cutoff point.

From my browsing (on the currently free Internet) I have discovered that the 'demise' of the free Internet is slated for 2010 in Canada, and two years later around the world. Canada is seen a good choice to implement such shameful and sinister changes, since Canadians are viewed as being laissez fair, politically uninformed and an easy target. The corporate marauders will iron out the wrinkles in Canada and then spring the new, castrated version of the Internet on the rest of the world, probably with little fanfare, except for some dire warnings about the 'evil' of the Internet (free) and the CEO's spouting about 'safety and security'. These buzzwords usually work pretty well.

What will the Internet look like in Canada in 2010? I suspect that the ISP's will provide a "package" program as companies like Cogeco currently do. Customers will pay for a series of websites as they do now for their television stations. Television stations will be available on-line as part of these packages, which will make the networks happy since they have lost much of the younger market which are surfing and chatting on their computers in the evening. However, as is the case with cable television now, if you choose something that is not part of the package, you know what happens. You pay extra.

And this is where the Internet (free) as we know it will suffer almost immediate, economic strangulation. Thousands and thousands of Internet sites will not be part of the package so users will have to pay extra to visit those sites! In just an hour or two it is possible to easily visit 20-30 sites or more while looking for information. Just imagine how high these costs will be.

At present, the world condemns China because that country restricts certain websites. "They are undemocratic; they are removing people's freedom; they don't respect individual rights; they are censoring information,” are some of the comments we hear. But what Bell Canada and Telus have planned for Canadians is much worse than that. They are planning the death of the Internet (free) as we know it, and I expect they'll be hardly a whimper from Canadians. It's all part of the corporate plan for a New World Order and virtually a masterstroke that will lead to the creation of billions and billions of dollars of corporate profit at the expense of the working and middle classes.

There are so many other implications as a result of these changes, far too many to elaborate on here. Be aware that we will all lose our privacy because all websites will be tracked as part of the billing procedure, and we will be literally cut off from 90% of the information that we can access today. The little guys on the Net will fall likes flies; Bloggers and small website operators will die a quick death because people will not pay to go to their sites and read their pages.

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Jul 21, 2008 23:49 |  #2

Boy, that would suck.. Not much else to say.


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Jul 22, 2008 03:58 |  #3

yea I read this a couple of weeks ago. Guess what the only way to make your option count is to move to an ISP that's not going to be doing this. and yes I am sure someone would.

Just because large company's can't make internet pay then it doesn't mean we should pay for it.

they just have to get creative.

if my current ISP changes it's plan to anything like this, I will be saying good bye and finding an ISP that gives me what I want. I would be recommending the same thing to family and friends.


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Jul 22, 2008 18:14 |  #4

Yeah there's been talk about scrapping the whole net neutrality idea and start charging sites like cable packages.

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Jul 22, 2008 18:45 |  #5

Chicken Little alert!

I'm a member of a mailing list frequented by the founders of the Internet: people like Dave Farber, Karl Auerbach, and many others. A writer on that list, Dan Steinberg, had this to say, which may have a bit of a calming effect:

As a Canadian I would find this news to be shocking!.....that is if I could find any evidence it were actually true.
I found nothing. Nothing at the CRTC. Nothing on the net...except for...this article. How the author jumped from the silliness of the text message charge (which everyone knew would be rolled back as soon as the kids told their parents about it) to this speculation is beyond me. I for one will not be looking for an article in Time magazine in the upcoming weeks because I am certain there is none.

I expect to see this story on Snopes.com within the hour. I think it is great that curtis brought the post to our attention because whether this is story is wild speculation or a clumsy corporate attempt at viral marketing or a new take on the classic 'pass it on' e-mail warnings it sure deserves to be thoroughly stopped in its tracks.

The way I read the article, Parkinson is a serious nut case. Among other things, given the way the Internet works, it would be extremely difficult (read "impossible") to set up a system that charged you based on the Web sites you visited, and denied access to the ones you hadn't paid for.


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Jul 22, 2008 19:55 as a reply to  @ gkuenning's post |  #6

Bogus. Agree that this ought to appear on the urban legends sites soon.

In a response on the author's blog, this was the first comment:

Kevin,
Several weeks ago I spoke to the alleged Time Magazine reporter, Dylan, about this issue and sent him the attached note. Dylan conceded that he was not a Time Magazine staff reporter but was hoping to submit a freelance story for their consideration. I never heard back from him after this note nor have we received any formal follow-up from Time Magazine as would be a normal part of the fact checking process prior to publication.
As I confirmed with Dylan a few weeks ago, TELUS is not part of any global movement to radically alter the Internet and we would appreciate if your group would cease those allegations.
Jim Johannsson
TELUS Director Media Relations

Not a credible article, with no citations. Move this to rumors, maybe?


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Jul 22, 2008 20:44 |  #7

...and the text message charge of 15 cents per was a real news item....but what's not mentioned is it was proposed for the plans where subscribers did not pay a flat fee for unlimited text per month, and currently received messages for free. Those plans charged 15 cents to send, and but nothing to receive.

So the big suppliers mentioned here said we can't afford to do that, it'll cost you 15 cents to receive - or buy our unlimited plan. No big deal really.

With 2 teenagers on cell phones, I'm paying the 5 bucks each to lets them text until their fingers are sore. I get the feeling this whole thing was meant for a slow news day.


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Jul 22, 2008 21:16 |  #8

The plan is to convert the Internet into a cable-like system, where customers sign up for specific web sites, and then pay to visit sites beyond a cutoff point.

I can see that scheme failing rather quickly.


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Jul 22, 2008 22:41 |  #9

It actually wouldn't be too hard in practice to start blocking certain sites, especially if the ISP essentially turns the customer network into a WAN. However I see it failing fairly quickly even so. The first company to offer "free unlimited" Internet would very quickly snap up customers. Especially with the growing availability of wireless and the roll out of Wi-Max soon


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