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ShutteringFocus
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Jan 15, 2005 18:27 |  #1

Alright...everywhere I go its 20D or Mark II...I'm feeling incompetent.

I'm using a D30...and sometimes it feels like its a Dinosaur. With the way you guys talk about these new cameras...holly smoke...I feel like my little baby should be in a museum someplace!

I was shooting basketball for the school newspaper the other day. And of course there was that pro dude that the school hires to take "real" pics for them. And he has his Mark II with his 550EX and his super duper battery pack, and lets not forget his 70-200 2.8 image stabilized...oh...and WHITE...lens. And then its half time and the dancers come out. Does he switch lenses for the close ups? No, of course not. He just reaches into his bag and pulls out another camera. A 1Ds with ANOTHER 550EX on it...loaded with a lens of some mm rating and a nice RED ring around the end of it...

*Sigh*

And there's me...with my D30 and my Sigma 70-200 2.8. The combo that I bought instead of a Jeep...and that in the gym with 1600 ISO just barely squeaks out good enough for little newspaper prints...

Im proud of it when the other guy has a PowerShot...




  
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Jan 15, 2005 18:52 |  #2
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why you comparing yourself to "Pros"? Take what you have and squeeze as much as you can out of it...


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Jan 15, 2005 18:57 |  #3

i'm not a pro, but it is almost necessary for us (media) to have at least two bodies. i wuold rather swith cameras then swithc lenses. I'll be looknig for another 10D or 20D as a second body.

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Jan 15, 2005 19:21 as a reply to  @ Eric DeCastro's post |  #4

You have a D30 and a f2.8 lens....
Umm....I'd be more then happy with a D30 or D60 they are great cameras. I use to use a D60 in a lab at work, I drooled over it daily--wish I owned oned.
I don't think a 20D body is going to make the pics much better....


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Jan 15, 2005 19:22 as a reply to  @ MrChad's post |  #5

A little pixel envy going on here? ;)

The D30 is an excellent camera. Always was and always will be.


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Jan 15, 2005 19:38 |  #6

I was originally looking at the D30, but took so long to convice myself to spend this money, that the D60 came out!

In for a penny...............

The L and DO came from developing my needs and getting the best to answer varying conditions.

Started with the 28-135 IS and still like this lens too, great walk around lens, good for may situations. Won't see the "pro" using this, but works for me.

Do I want the big lens? No. I'll go for the better body next. Well, maybe the 300 F4 with a 1.4.....


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Jan 16, 2005 03:43 |  #7

Yep, i'm seeing posts of D20 and MkII's everywhere... but i'm thinking that i get what i want from my camera and i've spent a grand total of £600 rather than £6000 :D
Yes, I'm tempted to drop the plastic on the counter, but I don't really think i'll get much more out of my camera if i did, as my kit is still severely limited by the user ;-)a I really am just enjoying getting out there and shooting pics of what looks good / interesting to me... here's hoping to some sunshine this afternoon so i can go get some roundy shots :)


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Jan 16, 2005 12:16 as a reply to  @ Littlenose's post |  #8

Hi ShutteringFocus,

The D30 is a great camera and can do stuff that the pro's 1ds's cant. The D30 is IR sensative so you can take Infrared photos with it if you have the correct filter on thr front (R72). On a bright day you can expect f8 and 2-8 second exposures but the pics are lovely. All the best

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Jan 16, 2005 14:17 as a reply to  @ BearSummer's post |  #9

BearSummer wrote:
Hi ShutteringFocus,

... The D30 is IR sensative so you can take Infrared photos with it if you have the correct filter on thr front (R72).....

BearSummer

Yeah.. let me know if you ever want to sell that old thing cheap :lol: :lol:

At the risk of generalisation.. most of us who frequent these forums are so "hooked" on the whole tech thing it's almost a disease....

Pros are a different story.. they have the gear because it's there job... and quite frankly... very few of the online camera gear geeks are n fact full time pro photogs.. (at least percentage wise) ... but it's of no use to compare your needs to that of a pro...

The rest of us... well,.. we drop all our cash on neat toys and live in unfurnished cheap apartments and drive yugos.... :lol:

I don't think you should envy us... :rolleyes: :mrgreen:

Like a herion addict,... It's US who should be pitied... :rolleyes: :lol:


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Jan 16, 2005 21:15 |  #10

ShutteringFocus Ill gladly swap you my A80 for your D30, its much newer and Ill even draw a red ring around the lens if you like :)


I sat down next to a guy with a brand new 20D the other day to shoot some BMX's jumping into the harbour. Said hello, asked about his camera, he asked about mine. We both complained about the lack of light, and poor background, talked about differnt ways to getting around it, discussed the settings we were useing, best point to focus, best time to start shooting and then did a little chimping, complimenting each other on good shots.
I put my A80 back in its case, and he put his 20D away, we said good bye and headed off.

Theres no need to let your equipment get in the way of enjoying your hobby. :)



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Jan 17, 2005 09:46 as a reply to  @ Moppie's post |  #11

I have two cameras and white lenses. But comparing to friend of mine who has only Drebel and couple Sigma lenses all my photos are crap. So it's not all about equipment. And he doesn't consider himself a pro. And what makes someone a truly pro? Definatelly not a camera... Just my opinion.
Don't be envy. But I agree changing lenses during shooting could be a real pain.


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Jan 17, 2005 10:05 |  #12

Are you happy with the photo's that the camera takes? If so, what's the problem?

Not to point out a famous photographer, but Ansel Adams didn't have 1/10th the technology we have today....his pictures came out pretty good ;)

One of my most favorite pictures taken in the past year was taken on the cheapest disposable camera around by the custodial staff at a theme park, it's not very sharp, the colors are pretty accurate (hard to go wrong there with modern film) but the shadow detail is pretty poor (no flash). Technically speaking the picture is a complete failure, but that doesn't stop it from being one of my overall favorites.

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Jan 17, 2005 11:38 |  #13

Hey! I have a Power Shot.

*goes to the corner and sulks*




  
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Jan 17, 2005 13:37 as a reply to  @ flugelboy's post |  #14

flugelboy wrote:
Hey! I have a Power Shot.

*goes to the corner and sulks*

there's nothing wrong with a powershot! a lot of us DSLR users still have one!


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Jan 17, 2005 15:35 as a reply to  @ EoSD30fReAk's post |  #15

Yeah, alright...you're right everyone...

I was shooting basketball in a gym. The only thing worse than that for lighting is shooting swimming in an indoor pool (which I have also done with the D30 and gotten workable results). I was just getting a little "Grain Down" as the 1600ISO shots on the D30 are pretty bad...especially in the shadows. And the D30's focus speed is not really what I would call lightning quick.

But then I went into my room and looked at my "old" camera. That Canon Ae-1. Manual everything. You wana talk about Ansel Adams style...haha...and focus speed? what? how fast can you twist a lens ring?

I guess comparing my camera to the pro is like comparing my car to a race car drivers ride.

(I attached one of the photos I got. At least I think I did)




  
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