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2 questions 1) Is Leica *really* that good and 2) does unused film have a shelf life?

 
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Jul 27, 2008 22:53 |  #1

1) Is Leica really as good as they make themselves out to be? Like the best of the best or very close to it?

2) Does unused film have a shelf life? Or can I buy film now and use it five years from now?

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Jul 28, 2008 00:37 |  #2

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2) Does unused film have a shelf life? Or can I buy film now and use it five years from now?

Film has a shelf life that is very much based on the storage conditions. 5 years should not be a problem with correct storage.


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Jul 28, 2008 03:34 |  #3

1) M lenses: Yes
2) correct storage being the fridge...


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Jul 28, 2008 08:49 |  #4

René Damkot wrote in post #5998196 (external link)
2) correct storage being the fridge...

Just make sure it doesn't get too cold and freeze. Ice crystals do nothing positive for grain.


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Jul 28, 2008 09:25 as a reply to  @ krb's post |  #5

Friend of mine just bought a Leica V-Lux1 camera. Her pictures are garbage. She shot auto, pics of kids from an adult POV (high), no happy faces, the faces she did have looked bland or sad in many cases, any motion was blurred because she was shooting 1/30 at ISO 200 F2.8, she thought the image stabilization would stop action,...

Good technology in untrained hands is worst than crappy technology in trained hands.

So to your question: To which Leica equipment are you referring? Good compared to what?


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Jul 28, 2008 10:06 |  #6

Does unused film have a shelf life?

Like cameras, film, isn't just "film"?
Amateur/consumer films are designed to stay in the camera for about a year, vacations at the start/end, with Christmas in the middle of the roll. The color changes magenta to green as it ages. (Or the other way around -can't remember)
Pro films are color balanced for right now out of the fridge & should be processed right now after shooting, within a day or so to maintain speed & CB.

Just make sure it doesn't get too cold and freeze. Ice crystals do nothing positive for grain.

"Back when", we used to buy all our film, including 8X10", in case lots so we had the same emulsion #, which meant same CB & speed. We froze it. What's different today that you shouldn't?

To which Leica equipment are you referring? Good compared to what?

Good question. My thought is that it's probably better than most people here who ask that question are.


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Jul 28, 2008 10:12 |  #7

Ice crystals may form on frozen film if it's been opened. If left in the sealed foil bag each roll comes in, no ice crystals will form. If frozen, film can be kept like new for decades.


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Jul 28, 2008 10:13 |  #8

krb wrote in post #5999142 (external link)
Just make sure it doesn't get too cold and freeze. Ice crystals do nothing positive for grain.

Actually color film can be frozen for long term storage. Kodak had a publication with a chart that showed the rate of degradation based on time and temperature. The lower the temperature the less loss (to a point). The key is to allow the film to thaw properly before use.


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Jul 28, 2008 10:15 |  #9

bwolford wrote in post #5999297 (external link)
any motion was blurred because she was shooting 1/30 at ISO 200 F2.8, she thought the image stabilization would stop action,...

Image stabilzation stops camera shake and not action.


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Jul 28, 2008 10:18 |  #10

Tixeon, we think too much alike, scarey.:lol:


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Jul 28, 2008 10:27 |  #11

breal101 wrote in post #5999549 (external link)
The key is to allow the film to thaw properly before use.

That must have been the problem.


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Jul 28, 2008 14:25 |  #12

breal101 wrote in post #5999549 (external link)
The key is to allow the film to thaw properly before use.

Thanks breal101. I forgot to include that part.

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Tixeon, we think too much alike, scarey.:lol:

Sometimes it's a little spookey. More than once I've been ready to reply to a post & someone beat me to it by mere seconds - with a virtually word for word matching reply. That's just fine because it's great to share experience.


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Jul 29, 2008 23:15 |  #13

Ice crystals may form on frozen film if it's been opened. If left in the sealed foil bag each roll comes in, no ice crystals will form.

One hour is long enough. Or put it in your pocket for 20 minutes.


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Jul 30, 2008 13:50 |  #14

PhotosGuy wrote in post #6010863 (external link)
Or put it in your pocket for 20 minutes.

Talk about spooky, That's exactly what I used to do with my Portra 120/220 roll film when taking it from the fridge & I was in a hurry. Great minds do think alike - breal101 & PhotosGuy.


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Jul 30, 2008 16:34 |  #15

breal101 wrote in post #5999549 (external link)
The key is to allow the film to thaw properly before use.

So you are saying don't put it in the microwave on defrost for a minute thirty seconds? :rolleyes:


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