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Idiot's Guide for the 40D?

 
skygypsy
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Jul 30, 2008 23:01 |  #1

Aloha!

Hope this finds everyone well. I'm new to this forum and new to taking any photos with my husband's 40D.

We have a newborn little girl and I've been taking some raw photos... nothing tricky, I'm as beginner as they come with the camera!

Does anyone have any suggestions or tricks? He's got a 50mm lens on it right now, and from what I can see in the closet a 24-70mm & 28mm.

hehe please forgive me for sounding like I have no idea what I am talking about. Just trying to take some cute pix of my daughter. I'm not even certain how to change it to b&w... ugh!

My husband uses it for skydiving, so he's not really messing around with all the options and features. Maybe I can teach him a thing or two hehehe :)

Thanks for anyone's patience who reads this...

Much aloha & blue skies!




  
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Jul 30, 2008 23:27 |  #2

Welcome to POTN and digital photography.

I'd suggest two books:

Understanding Exposure (external link)

40D Guide (external link)

I have and refer to both of them often.

For specific questions post a sample picture and ask away.


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Jul 31, 2008 00:11 |  #3

Welcome to POTN, digital photography and the joy of using the versatile EOS 40D.

After playing around with the "auto-everything" mode we suggest learning a little about the Creative Zone modes. Here is a short guide about these modes that I hope will help:

The Creative Zone modes are represented as P, Tv, Av, M and A-DEP.
· P = Program AE Mode
· Tv = Shutter-Priority AE Mode
· Av = Aperture-Priority AE Mode
· M = Manual Exposure Mode
· A-DEP = Automatic Depth-of-Field AE Mode

Users who are new to DSLR cameras and who want better photographs often want to know which creative mode they should use. Let's look at each Creative Zone mode and consider when its best to use each.

P: Program AE
In this mode the camera automatically sets the shutter speed and the aperture. You do have creative control over such things as AF mode, drive mode, ISO, white balance and file size. However, for beginners it is recommended that you leave these at the default settings.

If you have a limited understanding of when to use slow/fast shutter speeds and small/large apertures, start by using the P mode. While using this mode try to remember the following:
· Slow shutter speeds e.g. 15, 20, 30 can cause camera shake and blurry images; use a faster speed, an IS lens or a tripod
· Large apertures e.g. f2.8, f3.5, f4.0 are generally used when you want the background (behind your subject) to be out of focus. Here is an Example (external link)
· Small apertures e.g. f11, f13, f16 are best used for landscapes, crowds or whenever you want most of your scene to be in sharp focus.

A creative tool that you can use in "P" mode is called Program Shift. Lets say that the recommended exposure for a scene is 80 4.0 (1/80 sec at f4). You decide to use a faster shutter speed to prevent the effects of camera shake. You turn the main dial and the camera now recommends 125 3.5 (1/125 sec at f3.5). Basically, the camera shifted the exposure values while still allowing the same amount of light to expose the sensor.

Tv: Shutter-Priority AE
In this mode you manually set the shutter speed and the camera automatically sets the aperture to ensure an accurate exposure.

A creative use of shutter speed is using slow shutter speeds to blur an image and give a sense of motion. Conversely, fast shutter speeds can be used to freeze motion.

Here are 3 images of a portable fan that show the effects of varying shutter speeds:

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Here are some situations where using Tv is recommended:
· Waterfall: use slow shutter speed like 1/15, 1/20, 1/30 sec with a tripod or IS lens
· Photo finish: use fast shutter speed (e.g. 1/1000 sec) to freeze motion of cars/bikes
· Air show: try various shutter speeds and panning to create different effects
· Speeding boat or jet ski: use fast shutter speed to freeze motion and water droplets

Av: Aperture-Priority AE
In this mode you manually set the aperture and the camera automatically sets the shutter speed to ensure an accurate exposure.

The "standard" sequence of aperture values (f) is:

1, 1.4, 2.0, 2.8, 4, 5.6, 8, 11, 16, 22

You may have noticed that your Canon EOS 40D displays additional aperture values such as 7.1 and 9. The most important thing to remember about these numbers is that the smaller numbers (1.4, 2, 2.8, 4) represent large openings (apertures) in the lens and the larger numbers (11, 16, 22) represent smaller openings (apertures) in the lens.

When smaller f numbers are used, less of the foreground and background are in acceptable focus. When larger f numbers are used more of the foreground and background are in acceptable focus.

The term depth of field is closely related to aperture values (f numbers). Depth of field is defined as the area of acceptable focus that stretches from foreground to background. When photographing a person or a single flower you want that area to be narrow. Use small f numbers such as f1.4, f2.8, f4. When photographing a beach or a city/town the depth of field should be as wide as possible. This is achieved by using large f numbers such as f11, f13, f16.

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M: Manual Exposure
This mode is best suited for professionals and persons who have a very good knowledge of when to use small and large apertures and slow and fast shutter speeds.

In this mode you manually set the shutter speed and the aperture to suit the lighting condition. One of the best way to determine the correct exposure is to use a commercially-available handheld lightmeter such as this Gossen Flash and Ambient Lightmeter.

Alternatively, you can use the exposure level indicator in the viewfinder to help you get the correct exposure.

A-DEP: Automatic Depth-of-Field AE
When using this mode, objects in the foreground and background will be in focus automatically. All the AF points will function to detect the subject, and the aperture required to achieve the necessary depth of field will be set automatically.

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Jul 31, 2008 00:44 |  #4

nice post tonybear007! this would be great for beginners!

welcome to the forum skygypsy!:D


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Jul 31, 2008 07:22 |  #5

The 40D Guide that Tom_d mentions is a great book to learn about the camera.


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Jul 31, 2008 07:35 |  #6

skygypsy wrote in post #6017400 (external link)
Aloha!

Hope this finds everyone well. I'm new to this forum and new to taking any photos with my husband's 40D.

We have a newborn little girl and I've been taking some raw photos... nothing tricky, I'm as beginner as they come with the camera!

Does anyone have any suggestions or tricks? He's got a 50mm lens on it right now, and from what I can see in the closet a 24-70mm & 28mm.

hehe please forgive me for sounding like I have no idea what I am talking about. Just trying to take some cute pix of my daughter. I'm not even certain how to change it to b&w... ugh!

My husband uses it for skydiving, so he's not really messing around with all the options and features. Maybe I can teach him a thing or two hehehe :)

Thanks for anyone's patience who reads this...

Much aloha & blue skies!

I also have a newborn niece (born on 7/17) and love taking pictures of her. I taken some with the kit lens my sister has and going to take some with the nifty fifty this weekend. Simple thing to remember is to avoid the flash. At least for the start.


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Jul 31, 2008 07:42 |  #7

Tom_D wrote in post #6017546 (external link)
Welcome to POTN and digital photography.

I'd suggest two books:

Understanding Exposure (external link)

40D Guide (external link)

I have and refer to both of them often.

For specific questions post a sample picture and ask away.

I second both of these books. I also love this one :

Digital Portrait Photography and Lighting (external link)




  
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Jul 31, 2008 07:54 |  #8

The small manual that came with the 40D camera is quite good. Have you read it? Also a little Canon brochure came with the camera that shows how to take great pictures.

Congrats on bringing a new daughter into the world, mom!


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Jul 31, 2008 18:01 |  #9

Here is a link that helped me out when I first started. It is interactive and has a virtual camera and shows you the results of the decisions you make.

http://www.camerasinte​ractive.com/home.php# (external link)




  
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Jul 31, 2008 18:40 as a reply to  @ queenbee288's post |  #10

Another "idiot's guide" would be:

Turn on camera.
Set dial to green box.
Aim.
Press trigger.


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Jul 31, 2008 18:55 |  #11

What a great POST Tonybear!!


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Jul 31, 2008 19:01 |  #12

Tom_D wrote in post #6017546 (external link)
Welcome to POTN and digital photography.

I'd suggest two books:

Understanding Exposure (external link)

40D Guide (external link)

I have and refer to both of them often.

For specific questions post a sample picture and ask away.

I'm just beginning too, and these two books are my bibles.

I will say, however, I tend to use the 40D Guide as a supplement to Understanding Exposure. When the author of UE discusses a feature or presents one of the exercises, I find myself referencing the 40D Guide, almost like a manual.

I actually tried reading the 40D Guide first, but found myself learning a ton of theory... all of which went right over my head after a while. The problem is, and unlike in UE, the concepts are presented without practical backup; that is to say, there's no exercises or tutorials of how to actually apply all the theory you're learning. UE does stop every few pages and present a practical example to go try.

I imagine I'll go back and read 40D Guide, start to finish after UE. But for now, UE as the primary read and supported by the 40D Guide seems to be a winning combo for me.

Hope that helps.


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Jul 31, 2008 22:19 |  #13

sinister1 wrote in post #6022595 (external link)
What a great POST Tonybear!!

Happy to help out!

When I started out there were no LCD screens, no Photoshop and limited flexibility regarding changing ISO settings. I would load a roll of 36 FUJI slides (ISO 100) and try to make every image count.

One thing you would learn very quickly is discipline and patience. You try not to waste any shot, you checked your composition, you metered off the right part of the scene/subject and use a tripod when convenient. You soon learn the importance of selecting the right aperture and shutter speed.

I now realize that the digital camera tends to make me a bit lazy and sometimes less meticulous since there is Photoshop, I can change ISO setting at any time and my 4GB card can hold over 200 images. I also notice that many newcomers to digital photography expect the camera to do a lot on it's own.

Certain basic things have not changed. Photography is still about getting the right amount of light to expose the sensor. Understanding how different shutter speeds and apertures affect your image is key to getting award-winning photos.


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Jul 31, 2008 23:15 as a reply to  @ tonybear007's post |  #14

Once you get rolling, two other good books to check out are Scott Kelby's Digital Photography 1 and 2. They're an easy read and offer techniques you can implement right away.

http://www.amazon.com …oks&qid=1217564​066&sr=8-1 (external link)
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Aug 01, 2008 05:53 as a reply to  @ k9ziggy's post |  #15

Great responses, thanks guys.


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