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Aug 05, 2008 12:26 |  #1

ive been mounting it under my camera using a tripod sized threading with a male end on both sides but pointing that antenna sideways doesnt seem to give me good transmission/reception​.

do you guys just mount it to your flash? must the antenna be pointed up as they state?




  
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Aug 05, 2008 13:16 |  #2

I'm gonna get me a couple of these: http://www.flashzebra.​com/0070.shtml (external link)

I think they will solve the placing issue with the PW's.


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Aug 05, 2008 14:02 |  #3

kaitanium wrote in post #6051008 (external link)
ive been mounting it under my camera using a tripod sized threading with a male end on both sides but pointing that antenna sideways doesnt seem to give me good transmission/reception​.

do you guys just mount it to your flash? must the antenna be pointed up as they state?

As long as the antennas of both the Tx unit and the Rx unit are pointed in the same direction, it doesn't really matter whether they're up, down or sideways.


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Aug 05, 2008 14:04 |  #4

widowmaker wrote in post #6051383 (external link)
I'm gonna get me a couple of these: http://www.flashzebra.​com/0070.shtml (external link)

I think they will solve the placing issue with the PW's.

The OP wasn't completely clear but I thought he was asking how others mount their PWs to their cameras, not their light stands.

As far as mounting to a light stand is concerned, here's my solution:

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I really prefer this to a dedicated (and fairly expensive) caddy. The key component is an inexpensive Manfrotto 175 clamp (NOT the 175F "Justin" clamp). Add a light stand stud that you probably have sitting around somewhere and you're in business. It clamps very securely and the orientation of the PW can be varied by 360-degrees as necessary to get the antenna upright. Also, the 175 clamp is immensely useful in other ways.

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Aug 05, 2008 14:17 |  #5

i guess im just having issues figuring out the best placement of PWs, the one on my lightstand just hangs by its lanyard so the antenna is up. the one on my camera has the antenna poinintng off to the right and im missing shots because of the flash not going off.

just trying to find the best placement or figure out how the darn thing transmits. i mean my gamecube controller can control from downstairs, my wireless home phone, i can talk if im standing upside down...why is PW so picky?




  
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Aug 05, 2008 14:37 |  #6

Are you using a hot shoe flash in tandem with the PW? Any reason why your not mounting the PW to the hotshoe?


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Aug 05, 2008 14:39 |  #7

yea got a flash on the hotshoe so i need to go with the pc port. maybe its the cable. im about to get a screwlock cable to see if that improves things any.




  
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Aug 05, 2008 14:48 |  #8

kaitanium wrote in post #6051744 (external link)
i guess im just having issues figuring out the best placement of PWs, the one on my lightstand just hangs by its lanyard so the antenna is up. the one on my camera has the antenna poinintng off to the right and im missing shots because of the flash not going off.

just trying to find the best placement or figure out how the darn thing transmits. i mean my gamecube controller can control from downstairs, my wireless home phone, i can talk if im standing upside down...why is PW so picky?

90 degrees is the worst possible orientation you can have a transmitter and a receiver relative to each other. A sort of analogy is polarized sunglasses. Get two of them and place one in front of the other and at 90 degrees to each other. How well can you see through the glasses?


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Aug 05, 2008 14:55 |  #9

VHF and UHF signals can be very dependent on polarization, either vertical or horizontal, meaning if the transmitter antenna is horizontal the receiver should also be. I should think at the short distances we use with our PW's it wouldn't matter, but then these are weak signal transmissions. If the instructions say to be vertical I guess that is what is means. I mount my PW's to the flash shoe, so could but never have had a problem too.

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Aug 05, 2008 15:03 |  #10

mmm i never realized this about "polarization" of signals. this might help!

ive always though radio signals are radio signals and that as long as youre in range, it doesnt matter where your antenna is.




  
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Aug 05, 2008 15:13 |  #11

PacAce wrote in post #6051939 (external link)
90 degrees is the worst possible orientation you can have a transmitter and a receiver relative to each other. A sort of analogy is polarized sunglasses. Get two of them and place one in front of the other and at 90 degrees to each other. How well can you see through the glasses?

I take back my previous thread. Turns out that the 90 degree orientation is not the worst orientation possible (but it is very poor). According to Pocket Wizard, the worst orientation is having the Tx and the Rx antennas pointed at each other. :|


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Aug 05, 2008 16:30 |  #12

PacAce wrote in post #6052105 (external link)
I take back my previous thread. Turns out that the 90 degree orientation is not the worst orientation possible (but it is very poor). According to Pocket Wizard, the worst orientation is having the Tx and the Rx antennas pointed at each other. :|

Yes, pointing them at each other is very like "crossing the streams" on a proton pack.

See:
http://en.wikipedia.or​g/wiki/Proton_pack (external link)

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Aug 05, 2008 18:02 |  #13

widowmaker wrote in post #6051383 (external link)
I'm gonna get me a couple of these: http://www.flashzebra.​com/0070.shtml (external link)

I think they will solve the placing issue with the PW's.

+10000000

I have one for my PW and it works splendidly.




  
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Aug 05, 2008 18:17 as a reply to  @ Rockfreak300's post |  #14

Just use the landyard that comes with it to mount to your lightstand, and when using it with a flash on-camera attach the landyard to the camera strap.

I bought the caddies linked above but with the PW Multimax they are a pain to use. If I wrap the bungee cord around the PW then the light stand its too tight, but if I just wrap the bungee around the lightstand i have to go around 2 or 3 times which is a pain. How are you all attaching the PW w/caddy to the lightstands, maybe Im just overlooking the obvious :confused:


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Aug 05, 2008 20:44 |  #15

It is easy enough to tie an extra knot in the elastic (before attaching the caddy to the PW) if you always use the caddy mounted to a small pole as opposed to a larger flash head. This will shorten the elastic

I even have drilled additional holes and provided a longer elastic for others who want to mount the PW to the flash side, as opposed to the flash head. Almost any orientation is possible if the additional holes and a second elastic is used.


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