Approve the Cookies
This website uses cookies to improve your user experience. By using this site, you agree to our use of cookies and our Privacy Policy.
OK
Forums  •   • New posts  •   • RTAT  •   • 'Best of'  •   • Gallery  •   • Gear
Guest
Forums  •   • New posts  •   • RTAT  •   • 'Best of'  •   • Gallery  •   • Gear
Register to forums    Log in

 
FORUMS Cameras, Lenses & Accessories Canon Accessories 
Thread started 06 Aug 2008 (Wednesday) 14:05
Search threadPrev/next
sponsored links (only for non-logged)

Tripod Users Vs. Non-Tripod Users

 
almo
Goldmember
Avatar
1,088 posts
Gallery: 2 photos
Likes: 13
Joined Aug 2005
Location: Portland, ME
     
Aug 06, 2008 14:05 |  #1

I am a non-tripod user. I used to be a user, in my film days, and just after making the switch to digital. However, ever since I bought my first DSLR, Canon D30, I have not used one regularly. I do have one, a nice Manfroto head on SLIK legs. But I only use it indoors, for self portraits and shooting macro stuff in my light tent.

I am a photographer. I have almost 9 years of experience, and I know that shooting with a pod is a big deal, but I can't seem to actually pick the damn thing up as I am heading out the door. it's a pain in the hind quarters. I have used a monopod in the past, mine broke just a couple of weeks ago, but I find it to be quite cumbersome as well.

What I am wondering here is, why do you non-tripodders, like myself, not use one, and do you think your images suffer from not using one? And, how do you tripod users deal with this awkward piece of equipment, yet still manage to get shots that look like you were HH your cameras?


If you saw a man drowning and you could either save him or photograph the event...what lens would you use?

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
andrepaul
Goldmember
Avatar
1,225 posts
Joined May 2008
Location: NYC
     
Aug 06, 2008 14:12 |  #2

There are just some shots you can't pull off without one. I don't see how you could be shooting for so long without it, shots that imply motion, night shots, long exposures etc. If you can pull those off with just IS, then more power to you.


andre|paul design + photography (external link)
Website (external link) | Facebook (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
almo
THREAD ­ STARTER
Goldmember
Avatar
1,088 posts
Gallery: 2 photos
Likes: 13
Joined Aug 2005
Location: Portland, ME
     
Aug 06, 2008 14:25 |  #3

choomps wrote in post #6058606 (external link)
There are just some shots you can't pull off without one. I don't see how you could be shooting for so long without it, shots that imply motion, night shots, long exposures etc. If you can pull those off with just IS, then more power to you.


Actually I am brand new to IS. I just got my first IS lens about a week ago, right here on POTN. I have never relied on it, having not had it. I have always wanted to shoot birds, yet I never had the reach until now. With the 100-400 IS. Other than ducks on the ground, I have only had dismal results shooting birds. I have not really attempted to use the 400 for this yet, but I was thinking I would def. need a pod for that. I just feel a bit like I don't know how to use it anymore. It is a real crisis point for me when I am packing to go out. I always end up leaving it. I guess that has to change. I just hope I see some real advantage to using it, because that is why I gave it up in the first place all those years ago.


If you saw a man drowning and you could either save him or photograph the event...what lens would you use?

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
ben_r_
-POTN's Three legged Support-
Avatar
15,894 posts
Likes: 13
Joined Nov 2007
Location: Sacramento, CA
     
Aug 07, 2008 01:16 |  #4

You should always use a tripod any time you can in any situation! The increase in sharpness alone will make the effort worth it!


[Gear List | Flickr (external link) | My Reviews] /|\ Tripod Leg Protection (external link) /|\
GIVE a man a fish and he'll eat for a day. TEACH a man to fish and he'll eat for a lifetime.

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
masayako
Senior Member
Avatar
628 posts
Joined Jul 2008
     
Aug 07, 2008 01:38 as a reply to  @ ben_r_'s post |  #5

Use it, not use it, it's really up to you.

To me, and many others, without the use of tripod, we simply cannot take long exposure pictures. I mean LONG exposure, at least 2 minutes and up.

For example, can you shoot star trails without tripod? (75 pictures, 3 minutes long exposure time each) Without tripod and timer, can you tell me how to take this kind of photos?

I don't know how you can do it. Maybe you have special talent none of us have. In this case, good for you. :cool:




  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Calicajun
Goldmember
Avatar
3,214 posts
Gallery: 11 photos
Likes: 620
Joined Jan 2008
Location: Huntington Beach, CA
     
Aug 07, 2008 01:58 |  #6

ben_r_ wrote in post #6061997 (external link)
You should always use a tripod any time you can in any situation! The increase in sharpness alone will make the effort worth it!

I completely agree with your statement about the use of a tripod. This was one of two main points given at a lecture I attended given by Ansel Adams (dating myself). To me, if Ansel said that the best way to go, I follow.:)


Remember, Stressed spelled backward is Desserts.:)
Suggestions welcome.
Sony A7rIV, Sigma 24-70 f2.8, Sigma, 14-24 f2.8, Sony 100-400G, Godox V860II

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Riff ­ Raff
Goldmember
Avatar
1,111 posts
Likes: 1
Joined Mar 2007
Location: Austin, Texas, USA
     
Aug 07, 2008 02:06 |  #7

I just don't do long exposures, that's all. I might explore that area at some point in the future, but I certainly don't feel that my life is incomplete because I'm not able to shoot star trails currently. *shrug*


Shawn McHorse - Shawn.McHorse.com (external link) / AustinRocky.org (external link)
DSLR: 5D Mark III Compact: S100 Flash: 580EX II Bag: Tamrac Rally 5
Lenses: 16-35mm f/2.8L II, 24-70mm f/2.8L, 70-200mm f/2.8L IS,
50mm f/1.4, 85mm f/1.8

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
troypiggo
Goldmember
Avatar
4,743 posts
Likes: 172
Joined Jun 2007
Location: Brisbane, AUSTRALIA
     
Aug 07, 2008 07:30 |  #8

Calicajun wrote in post #6062123 (external link)
I completely agree with your statement about the use of a tripod. This was one of two main points given at a lecture I attended given by Ansel Adams (dating myself). To me, if Ansel said that the best way to go, I follow.:)

What was the second main point? ;)


"Interesting. You're afraid of insects and women. Ladybugs must render you catatonic." - Sheldon
Flickr (external link) | Gear List | Macro Rig | Astro Rig | Astro Software Post

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
jrsforums
Goldmember
1,249 posts
Joined Feb 2005
Location: Cary (Raleigh), NC, USA
     
Aug 07, 2008 08:42 |  #9

Riff Raff wrote in post #6062146 (external link)
I just don't do long exposures, that's all. I might explore that area at some point in the future, but I certainly don't feel that my life is incomplete because I'm not able to shoot star trails currently. *shrug*

Do not let "long exposures" cloud you decision on whether to use a tripod or not.

I think you would be shocked at how much better your images can be using a tripod. This is true even if you are shooting a fast shutter speeds and with IS lenses.

One of the reasons why good tripods (e.g. Gitzo) are expensive is not that they carry heavier weights, but that they are very good at dampening viabrations. In most cases, particularly with longer lenses, viabrations which will effect image quality will never be felt...only seen....and many times you will not notice it unless you can compare handhelt to (good) tripod.


John

Gear List

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
elysium
"full of stupid banter"
Avatar
11,619 posts
Likes: 1
Joined Jul 2007
Location: Harrow/London/UK/GB/That Part Of The World/Next To France
     
Aug 07, 2008 08:44 |  #10

Most of the time when I shoot, my situations do not call for one like car photography or nightclub work. I have one sitting at home but only use it for more night scenes really which is very few and far between. Just depends on your shooting style.


Everyday, a programmer finds a way of creating an idiotproof program. Everyday, the universe spits out another idiot.....So far, the universe if winning

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
jhom
Goldmember
Avatar
1,320 posts
Joined Apr 2007
Location: Dallas, TX
     
Aug 07, 2008 10:19 |  #11

almo wrote in post #6058563 (external link)
I am a non-tripod user. I used to be a user, in my film days, and just after making the switch to digital. However, ever since I bought my first DSLR, Canon D30, I have not used one regularly. I do have one, a nice Manfroto head on SLIK legs. But I only use it indoors, for self portraits and shooting macro stuff in my light tent.

I am a photographer. I have almost 9 years of experience, and I know that shooting with a pod is a big deal, but I can't seem to actually pick the damn thing up as I am heading out the door. it's a pain in the hind quarters. I have used a monopod in the past, mine broke just a couple of weeks ago, but I find it to be quite cumbersome as well.

What I am wondering here is, why do you non-tripodders, like myself, not use one, and do you think your images suffer from not using one? And, how do you tripod users deal with this awkward piece of equipment, yet still manage to get shots that look like you were HH your cameras?

I think the more relevant question is why you don't use the tripod. You state it is a pain. Well, why is it a pain? Have you tested some of the newer and lighter setups? Having traversed the tripod path of cheap --> Manfrotto --> Gitzo I have no qualms in including my legset when I pack for a shoot. In fact, I look forward to using my legsets because I know they help improve my images.


Jim

My Gear

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
maytay20
Member
Avatar
148 posts
Joined Jun 2008
Location: Burton, MI
     
Aug 07, 2008 10:35 |  #12

I don't use my tripod most of the time either, but all I have for a tripod is a very inconvenient pos from ritz. Knowing what I know now I wouldn't buy this one again. It starts to collapse from the weight of my camera and flash with the kit lens. (30D, 430ex and 18 -55) So I have invested in a mono pod because of moving so much during weddings. The only thing I don't like about my mono pod is it doesn't have a quick release so doing any shots on the ground can be inconvenient to detach and reattach it. But I have to say it have helped my shots overall. I do want a really nice tripod with a good head on it. I bet my wrists would feel better too. I now am carrying a 40D, 24-105L lens, 430ex all on a flip bracket so if I don't use my mono pod my wrist kills by the end of the night. Although I work at a restaurant with 3 catering rooms and I have yet see a pro photog with a tripod at a wedding. And it amazes me how many of them set there camera in the grass to set up formal shots.




  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
René ­ Damkot
Cream of the Crop
Avatar
39,856 posts
Likes: 8
Joined Feb 2005
Location: enschede, netherlands
     
Aug 07, 2008 11:35 |  #13

I've screwed up more shots because I didn't use a tripod then because I did use one. ;)
If it's possible, I'll use a tripod.


"I think the idea of art kills creativity" - Douglas Adams
Why Color Management.
Color Problems? Click here.
MySpace (external link)
Get Colormanaged (external link)
Twitter (external link)
PERSONAL MESSAGING REGARDING SELLING OR BUYING ITEMS WITH MEMBERS WHO HAVE NO POSTS IN FORUMS AND/OR WHO YOU DO NOT KNOW FROM FORUMS IS HEREBY DECLARED STRICTLY STUPID AND YOU WILL GET BURNED.

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Calicajun
Goldmember
Avatar
3,214 posts
Gallery: 11 photos
Likes: 620
Joined Jan 2008
Location: Huntington Beach, CA
     
Aug 07, 2008 13:26 |  #14

troypiggo wrote in post #6063018 (external link)
What was the second main point? ;)

Never center your subject between the Horizon and foreground, pick one or the other but not both in the same picture. May not be exactly how it was said but you get the idea, it was years ago to say the least.:)


Remember, Stressed spelled backward is Desserts.:)
Suggestions welcome.
Sony A7rIV, Sigma 24-70 f2.8, Sigma, 14-24 f2.8, Sony 100-400G, Godox V860II

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
ben_r_
-POTN's Three legged Support-
Avatar
15,894 posts
Likes: 13
Joined Nov 2007
Location: Sacramento, CA
     
Aug 07, 2008 13:32 |  #15

Calicajun wrote in post #6064919 (external link)
Never center your subject between the Horizon and foreground, pick one or the other but not both in the same picture. May not be exactly how it was said but you get the idea, it was years ago to say the least.:)

Yea thats a good one too! Kinda goes along with following the rule of thirds.


[Gear List | Flickr (external link) | My Reviews] /|\ Tripod Leg Protection (external link) /|\
GIVE a man a fish and he'll eat for a day. TEACH a man to fish and he'll eat for a lifetime.

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
sponsored links (only for non-logged)

1,856 views & 0 likes for this thread, 19 members have posted to it.
Tripod Users Vs. Non-Tripod Users
FORUMS Cameras, Lenses & Accessories Canon Accessories 
AAA
x 1600
y 1600

Jump to forum...   •  Rules   •  Forums   •  New posts   •  RTAT   •  'Best of'   •  Gallery   •  Gear   •  Reviews   •  Member list   •  Polls   •  Image rules   •  Search   •  Password reset   •  Home

Not a member yet?
Register to forums
Registered members may log in to forums and access all the features: full search, image upload, follow forums, own gear list and ratings, likes, more forums, private messaging, thread follow, notifications, own gallery, all settings, view hosted photos, own reviews, see more and do more... and all is free. Don't be a stranger - register now and start posting!


COOKIES DISCLAIMER: This website uses cookies to improve your user experience. By using this site, you agree to our use of cookies and to our privacy policy.
Privacy policy and cookie usage info.


POWERED BY AMASS forum software 2.58forum software
version 2.58 /
code and design
by Pekka Saarinen ©
for photography-on-the.net

Latest registered member was a spammer, and banned as such!
2848 guests, 162 members online
Simultaneous users record so far is 15,144, that happened on Nov 22, 2018

Photography-on-the.net Digital Photography Forums is the website for photographers and all who love great photos, camera and post processing techniques, gear talk, discussion and sharing. Professionals, hobbyists, newbies and those who don't even own a camera -- all are welcome regardless of skill, favourite brand, gear, gender or age. Registering and usage is free.