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how unreliable can the pc port get...even with a screwlock?

 
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Aug 11, 2008 11:28 |  #1

im finding that not even with a screwlock cable helps this situation. the only way i can gaurantee reliability is if i mount my pocketwizard on the hotshoe itself.

is there anything more i can do to improve the reliability of the pc port when i have a flash on the hotshoe and a pocketwizard connected via pc?




  
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Aug 11, 2008 11:44 |  #2

There are PC tip reconditioners that tighten the outer contact of the PC plug. You could give that a try. A plier can be used in a pinch, too (no pun intended). I know one person in this forum who uses his teeth! :mrgreen: :lol: :)


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Aug 11, 2008 12:21 |  #3

I used to just jamb something pointed into the socket on the cord to bend the center pin off center a little, then squeeze the outer ring with small pliers. Teeth would work for that.




  
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Aug 11, 2008 12:43 |  #4

so in all reality, a screwlock cable does nothing for the connection and transmission of signals?...i could have used tape?




  
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Aug 11, 2008 13:20 |  #5

kaitanium wrote in post #6086886 (external link)
so in all reality, a screwlock cable does nothing for the connection and transmission of signals?...i could have used tape?

Just stops them physically falling apart afaik - it won't improve a dodgy connector pin/surround


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Aug 11, 2008 13:29 as a reply to  @ GregSteer's post |  #6

I gave up on the PC port and reconditioning. It was a daily routine for me and didn't like that I could experience problems smack in the middle of a shoot. There were even times that I held my finger on the connector to apply even pressure and that didn't help so I wasn't convinced that the screw-lock would be much better.


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Aug 11, 2008 17:25 |  #7

FlashZebra sells a part for the 580EX that puts a sync port on the flash, as a standard 3.5mm socket, maybe you could consider that? You can do the mod yourself if you like too, there are instructions around here somewhere.


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Aug 11, 2008 18:50 |  #8

this thing?

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i have a II though, i doubt that will fit it, genious idea though



  
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Aug 11, 2008 18:52 |  #9

so is there anything reliable i can use where i can still keep a flash on the hotshoe and still control another flash with a PW?




  
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Aug 11, 2008 19:05 |  #10

kaitanium wrote in post #6089155 (external link)
this thing?

i have a II though, i doubt that will fit it, genious idea though

Does the II do it automatically? Or is there a mod? The v1 foot doesn't fit the v2 flash.


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Aug 11, 2008 19:37 |  #11

I find that the sync cord for my ABR800 is outstanding! It always fits the sync socket on my camera tightly and makes terrific contact. I can't say the same for my JTL sync cords... I think it all comes down to the connector itself on the cable, and not the port. This is just my opinion though.


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Aug 11, 2008 19:47 as a reply to  @ JMHPhotography's post |  #12

I've found the Elinchrom sync cables to be of much better quality than a lot of the lesser expensive generic cables. I didn't like the supplied AB sync cables. They were a daily headache for me.


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Aug 11, 2008 20:41 |  #13

kaitanium wrote in post #6086886 (external link)
so in all reality, a screwlock cable does nothing for the connection and transmission of signals?...i could have used tape?

This is not accurate.

The screwlock does two things. It screw part takes the stress allowing the center part to be just an electrical connection. This greatly improves reliability as the stress on the cable is what causes much of the issues with the standard PC cable. The stress enlarges the outer collar necessitating all the biting to persuade function.

I addition, the screw itself is also another negative connection in addition to the outside collar on the screwlock connector.

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Aug 11, 2008 20:52 |  #14

FlashZebra wrote in post #6089737 (external link)
the screw itself is also another negative connection in addition to the outside collar on the screwlock connector.

What Lon said.

If you're using a screwlock connector, and it's tight, then you shouldn't need to worry about the collar underneath it. Slightly bending the center pin off center might help.

The only time a screwlock connector ever failed me was when it loosened up.

That said, I will gladly sign a petition to remove the PC connection in its various forms from camera and flash equipment, in favor of a 1/8" miniplug.


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Aug 12, 2008 01:07 |  #15

PacAce wrote in post #6086516 (external link)
There are PC tip reconditioners that tighten the outer contact of the PC plug. You could give that a try. A plier can be used in a pinch, too (no pun intended). I know one person in this forum who uses his teeth! :mrgreen: :lol: :)

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I also have used my teeth on several occasions to persuade a uncooperative standard PC connection to get with the program (when I was unexpectedly marooned from my PC tip conditioner).

Enjoy! Lon


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