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Monolight kit/Softbox Kit?

 
Jannie
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Aug 15, 2008 11:17 |  #31

This is exciting, and fun! I can't decide yet and don't have to but sure could have used a couple of lights yesterday, I was shooting an artist friends collection and had to use bounced daylight, came out great but lights would have made it so much easier.

Good grief I've tried several times to make heads or tails out of Bogen Imaging website trying to find good information on those strobes and it's absolutely the worst website to try and browse I've ever run across on the internet.

Is there a better site for showcasing and explaining their stuff, this was crazy. My local store sent me to their website because they didn't have an printed literature. It's so bad that it's almost making me angry.


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Aug 15, 2008 17:25 |  #32

im still a newb w/ lighting but w/ the Genesis kit is there 2 lights? One light thats always on then when you take the picture a brighter one goes off? Im not sure of the names of those kind of kits. Those are the ones im looking at soon. I dont want to use just normal flashes, and i dont want just a constant light. i want some where the light stays on then when u take a pic a flash goes. See im a noob lol




  
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Aug 15, 2008 20:01 |  #33

Unlimited - you can buy a Genesis light by itself, which includes the studio flash, a modeling lamp, power cord, sync-cord that connects to your camera (so when you press the button the flash fires too), and a reflector dish that bounces all your flash light forward when fired. The modeling lamp does stay on continuously, but is much dimmer than a flash tube of course. Modeling lamps are bright enough to aim your lights and see exactly where they're going to hit the subject and how it'll look when the flash goes off. Many of today's studio lights use "proportional" modeling lamps, meaning if you turn the power of the flash down to 1/2 ... the modelling lamp dims to 1/2 as well. 3/4 power equals 3/4 power modeling lamp. etc. Incredibly useful for setting up the shoot when you want one at full power as your main light, and another at a lower power to just fill in the shadows or create some dynamic lighting.

So that's the Genesis 200 by itself. They also sell a Genesis 200 - one light KIT. The kit includes all the above -AND- a 10' stand with brass mounting head to screw your light onto ... and a 45" umbrella that can have the flash bounced off it -OR- shot through its white diffusion material. Super versatile, but costs more.

Finally - you can buy a two-light Genesis 200 kit. That's 2 lights, 2 stands, 2 umbrellas, etc. What's kinda silly is their light by itself was the exact same price as the one-light kit so no reason to not purchase the whole kit for its addt'l goodies. Not sure it's still priced the same, but was when they were introduced earlier this year.

Genesis also has a 400w/s light kit in the same 3 versions. Double the power and light output ... but a lot more money. It's also avaiable as just the light and cords ... a single light kit with stand/umbrella ... or the two light kit with all the goodies.


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Aug 15, 2008 20:11 |  #34

slivr wrote in post #6115995 (external link)
So that's the Genesis 200 by itself. They also sell a Genesis 200 - one light KIT. The kit includes all the above -AND- a 10' stand with brass mounting head to screw your light onto ... and a 45" umbrella that can have the flash bounced off it -OR- shot through its white diffusion material. Super versatile, but costs more.

Oddly enough, Jason, the Genesis 200 and the Genesis 200 Kit cost exactly the same: $169.99.

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Aug 15, 2008 20:11 |  #35

Ok so it think when the time comes im gonna get that, seems great for the money.




  
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Aug 16, 2008 01:01 |  #36

What's kinda silly is their light by itself was the exact same price as the one-light kit so no reason to not purchase the whole kit for its addt'l goodies

Good catch. I mentioned the silliness of having a light (by itself) priced the same as a 1 light kit but had it in a different paragraph. Isn't it odd their marketing it that way? I think its a bit confusing for new purchasers.


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