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Aug 13, 2008 14:25 |  #1

So I know that this is pretty basic photography but Im a beginner, but what exactly do certain filters do?


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Aug 13, 2008 14:27 |  #2

Any filters in particular? All any filter does is remove some light from the picture. It may be light of a particular colour, or it may be light associated with glare.


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Aug 13, 2008 14:29 |  #3

well i mean more filters in general. I mean wouldnt they diminish some of the IQ?


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Aug 13, 2008 14:30 |  #4

Only cheap ones. Quality ones you'd be hard pressed to find a difference other than the specific design effect.


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Aug 13, 2008 14:40 |  #5

What Jon says - you get what you pay for and cheap filters will often add glare, reflections, etc. and degrade sharpness. Your more expensive multi-coated filters like Circular Polarizers (CPL) will add color saturation to a shot, reduce reflection/glare, improve contrast, and generally make your images more pleasing.

All of these were enhanced a bit in PS, but most were shot with a CPL:

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Aug 13, 2008 15:03 |  #6

Thanks for the information... so CPLs are good filters? How much should i expect to pay for filters that are good quality?


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Aug 13, 2008 15:12 |  #7

Depends on the filter diameter and the type of filter. But if you get B+W MRC, Hoya S-HMC or Pro-1 DMC, or Heliopan SH-PMC, you'll be OK. They're all top quality.


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Aug 13, 2008 15:14 |  #8

The CPL is more than a UV or Skylight filter in it's ability to polarize light. But there is a cost as it can reduce your exposure 1 -2 stops easily. The UV or Skylight won't do that.

I bought my 77mm multicoated (Hoya Pro1) locally on sale for $149. There's a place in Hong Kong called Havstar(?) that sells high quality filters much cheaper. But you can easily invest $100 depending upon filter diameter.

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Thanks for the information... so CPLs are good filters? How much should i expect to pay for filters that are good quality?


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Aug 13, 2008 15:18 |  #9

i take it that smaller filter diameters will be cheaper?


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Aug 13, 2008 15:24 |  #10

Yes, but you don't want to get one smaller than your lens' threads (the number by the Φ mark on the front). Probably 58 mm for your kit lens.


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Aug 13, 2008 15:25 |  #11

mmhmm 58mm for my kit lens and my 100-300mm & 52mm for my 35-80 & 50mm for my new nifty im picking up today..


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Aug 14, 2008 06:45 as a reply to  @ canonnoob's post |  #12

I'm not much of a fan of step rings, but that's an option that's open to you. Buy the 58mm CPL, then get a 52mm-58mm step ring. Simply thread the step ring into the threads on your smaller diameter lenses, then thread the CPL into the step ring. One disadvantage is that you may not be able to use your lens hood when using the step ring. Other than that, no other issues. If you are able from a budget standpoint, the best option is to have a CPL in the two thread sizes...this will save fumbling with (and having to remember to bring along) a step ring or two. Luckily, the prices for 52 and 58 CPL's arento too bad...its when you get to the 77mm size that prices really take a jump up.


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Aug 15, 2008 13:41 |  #13

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I bought my 77mm multicoated (Hoya Pro1) locally on sale for $149. There's a place in Hong Kong called Havstar(?) that sells high quality filters much cheaper. .. .


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A 77 Hoya Pro CPL with bonus UV is only $109 (See here: http://hvstar.net …ction=VIEWPROD&​ProdID=294 (external link))

They're based out of HK, but the office is in Vancouver, Canada.




  
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Aug 15, 2008 15:07 |  #14

yup - I knew their pricing was pretty good.

Make sure to double check the shipping charges though. I've heard they can be a bit higher, but in spite of that the price of the merchandise is very good.

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A 77 Hoya Pro CPL with bonus UV is only $109 (See here: http://hvstar.net …ction=VIEWPROD&​ProdID=294 (external link))

They're based out of HK, but the office is in Vancouver, Canada.


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Sep 03, 2008 12:19 as a reply to  @ sapearl's post |  #15

Is there a real difference in a uv filter and a skylight filter?
Also, there's skylight 1A and skylight 2A, or something like that.

It seems like years ago people always said 'skylight filter' but now it's 'uv filter'.
Can you really tell any difference in your shots between the two?

I think the skylight has a slight salmon colored cast to it.
I wonder if that would actually warm a shot a little.

I was planning to keep skylight filters on my Canon lenses to protect them.
Multi-coated B+W or Heliopan.

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