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Aug 14, 2008 19:25 |  #1

This is the first time I have ever had problems with moire in a childs dress.

What techniques is everyone using for this problem?

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Aug 14, 2008 19:28 |  #2

First things first - are you sure it's there, or is it just something that's visible when viewing at smaller than 100% on screen?

If it's genuinely a problem with the pixels, can you post a 100% crop of it here?


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Aug 16, 2008 09:55 as a reply to  @ Damo77's post |  #3

it shows on the prints. I didn't really notice it, when I was retouching the image.




  
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Aug 16, 2008 16:33 |  #4

Ok, can you post a 100% crop of the area for us?


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Aug 16, 2008 18:44 as a reply to  @ Damo77's post |  #5

Are you re-sizing to print? Moire can be a result of re-sizing, especially re-sizing down.


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Aug 16, 2008 19:53 |  #6

here is a close up of the dress. Thanks


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Aug 16, 2008 21:09 |  #7

It (moire) is evident in the posted image. Is it there in the full size image?


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Aug 16, 2008 22:59 |  #8

If the moire is not in the image out of camera, here's a link explaiining the cause and how to reduce it when re-sizing: http://www.cambridgein​colour.com …/image-resize-for-web.htm (external link)


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Aug 17, 2008 05:04 |  #9

Q&D approach:
Opened file, assigned sRGB.
Looked at the channels. The moire pattern is the same in R and G, different (alternate) in B.
Channel mixer layer (masked), to even out most of the moire.
Hue/sat to get the color back to where it wat (approx.)
2 minute job.

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Aug 17, 2008 09:44 |  #10

No offence René, but it's still everywhere, just slightly blurred now.




  
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Aug 17, 2008 10:56 |  #11

It's not completely gone no, but it's quite a bit less, and a bit longer work will get rid of most. That's why I mentioned the "Q&D" ;)


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Aug 17, 2008 12:31 |  #12

thanks rene. yes the morire is in the raw image.




  
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Aug 19, 2008 13:43 |  #13

i am not following your instructions clearly, can you explain the steps more clearly. lol




  
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Aug 20, 2008 08:41 |  #14

Download the psd (post #9), and try some different settings in the channel mixer.
The idea is that you get the luminousity between the 3 channels (R,G,B) in the dress equalized (totally screwing up the color, but lessening the moire), then change the color back to where it was.

This is because the moire is dark in different parts in the blue vs. the other 2 channels.

Here are a gif of before and after, going through R, G an B channel.
You can see the respective luminances have changed (color changed), but the moire in G and B is almost gone. The red channel still shows some.

R, G and B channel. After correction: left. Before correction: right

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