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Aug 15, 2008 16:23 |  #16

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The 5D though a real nice camera, still bases itself on the consumer side of the fence. It only has a 9 point focus system same as the xxD bodies and a 35 point metering, again as the xxD bodies. It's claim to fame is the full frame sensor and the quality of image it delivers.

More geared for studio/indoor use. Really good low light performance. I'm a full time pro and own 2 5s. Canon also considers it a pro level camera (CPS). All you need is a spot meter and a brain and the 5D can supply the meter all the metering points you need. I use the center spot most of the time. So I'll take the low light and high IQ FF performance over 35 metering points and a bunch of focusing points any day.




  
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Aug 15, 2008 17:50 |  #17

Im sure that if I had a D300 I would love it for its 51point autofocus, I can see the advantage for tracking a moving subject where the clustered af points would be easier to cover the subject, however, I do very little sports photography, so for me the 9 points on the 40D plus the custom function to select af points with the joystick is ideal as I change the af point every few shots, and frequently use the off centre points for off centre subjects and nice bokeh with my 85 f1.8 or 70-200f4. I just think that the nine point autofocus works so nicely with the joystick, its so easy and quick to change the focus point and change the composition of the photo.


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Aug 15, 2008 20:03 |  #18

I'd like Canon to put the focusing points on the "rule of thirds" points. That right there would make composition with the focusing points a lot easier. Is there some technical reason why the points are clustered so closely around the center point?




  
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Aug 15, 2008 20:06 |  #19

I will stick with my Baby 1D, a gripped 20D. But that is a very good idea for sports photographers, if canon had one and I needed a new body, I would get one in a heart beat.
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Aug 15, 2008 20:09 |  #20

I don't think I'd care. If Canon did slap something like that together, I'd put a grip on it anyway and it wouldn't be much different than just carrying the 1 series around. Kind of like buying a 1V in one box and the HS in another instead of just buying the 1V HS complete. :D


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Aug 15, 2008 20:11 |  #21

Jimlevitt wrote in post #6116011 (external link)
I'd like Canon to put the focusing points on the "rule of thirds" points. That right there would make composition with the focusing points a lot easier. Is there some technical reason why the points are clustered so closely around the center point?

On my 20D, the four corners are on the thirds, at least it looks like they are.

http://www.dpreview.co​m/reviews/CanonEOS20D/​page5.asp (external link)

The top and bottom look like they're on the horizontal lines, the ones between the mid and far sides look like they're on the vertical lines.


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Aug 15, 2008 20:11 |  #22

cdifoto wrote in post #6116031 (external link)
I don't think I'd care. If Canon did slap something like that together, I'd put a grip on it anyway and it wouldn't be much different than just carrying the 1 series around. Kind of like buying a 1V in one box and the HS in another instead of just buying the 1V HS complete. :D

That's the opposite of me.

I'll take a FF camera with the AF system of a 1D and the size of the Oly OM-1 thanks. I'll never mount a grip on the already too frikkin big XXD or 5D bodies. The number one reason I don't have a 1D of any kind is size and weight. Cost is not the obstacle for me.

I'll take the OM-1 VF to go with that package too, BTW.


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Aug 15, 2008 20:13 |  #23

cdifoto wrote in post #6116031 (external link)
I don't think I'd care. If Canon did slap something like that together, I'd put a grip on it anyway and it wouldn't be much different than just carrying the 1 series around. Kind of like buying a 1V in one box and the HS in another instead of just buying the 1V HS complete. :D

I was playing with the D700 today and it's a pretty hefty piece of equipment, I can't imagine the weight of it w/a grip. (I don't know how it compares to the D300 in size exactly but they looked pretty close sitting next to one another).


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Aug 15, 2008 20:13 |  #24

See I can't stand how small my Spotmatic is. And the 10D without grip feels wrong to my hands. Ironically though, I seldom actually use the grips for their buttons.


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Aug 15, 2008 20:15 |  #25

See, I have a 5D and a 20D. I can get the same shot with the 5D or the 20D so FF is not a huge deal. Now I can not get some of the shots with the 5D that I can with my Mamiya or my Hasselblad.
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Aug 15, 2008 21:47 |  #26

they did make this cam long ago, it was teh EOS3.... and i still have one. i wish they made a digital version :(


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Aug 15, 2008 21:50 as a reply to  @ turbodude's post |  #27

I wish that they made a digital version of the F-1. If ya want fps you add it. If not ya don't and those great old manual focus chrome mount lenses....




  
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Aug 15, 2008 21:55 |  #28

I would really be happy if Canon came out with a gripless version of the 1Dmark3. The Mark 3 is great but it's also big and heavy and not something I want to carry with me all the time.


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Aug 15, 2008 23:18 |  #29

PacAce wrote in post #6116509 (external link)
I would really be happy if Canon came out with a gripless version of the 1Dmark3. The Mark 3 is great but it's also big and heavy and not something I want to carry with me all the time.

yeah but FF in order to compliment the M3...now that would be sweet!


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Aug 15, 2008 23:45 |  #30

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If Canon offered up a camera about the size and weight of the 40D with a 1.6 crop sensor, ISO 100 through 3200 with 50 and 6400 extended, a 45 point AF, EC +-3, 63 point metering, and still accept both EF and EF-S mount I’d open my wallet in a second.

So what about it? Would you be willing to spend a bit more and get a real pro-featured camera in a consumer body?

I think they might offer that to respond to the pressure from nikon. After all, noink came out with some crop body and full blown AF system recently. So if canon is going to be competitive, they need to lower the price...

It might not be soon, but it has to happen eventually.


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