Adobe RGB or sRGB

rubykate wrote in post #6120295
What is your camera set on?

Would also be interested to know what color settings you are using in Photoshop.

Thanks for your input.

Doublea17 wrote in post #6121638
I was new to digital photog and the video I saw recomended Adobe RGB so I have been using it since. Dont know if that is good or not so I like reading threads like this

rubykate wrote in post #6122213
What setting are you all using for your Photoshop color settings then? The North American Prepress?

Have a read in the link from my sig.

thrash_273 wrote in post #6121059
adobe rgb incase i need bigger prints.

Color space is totally irrelevant for print size...

davidinjp wrote in post #6121116
I print, so therefore I use Adobe RGB all the time. Which really shines with the latest beta Adobe RAW profiles http://labs.adobe.com/​wiki/index.php/DNG_Pro​files

Color space has nothing to do with that either.

therealmr wrote in post #6121292
QFT. You can always convert to sRGB later, too.

In which case all out of gamut colors will be clipped...

bill boehme wrote in post #6122585
I shoot RAW so the colorspace set in the camera does not apply

But it will change the preview and histogram, just like any other in camera parameter!

bill boehme wrote in post #6122585
when you convert the colorspace to something smaller (using Relative Colorometic rendering, BTW), saturation clipping will not be such a big issue.

Since you can only use colorimetric intent, any out of gamut color will be clipped, unless you bring it in gamut before converting.
So you gain exactly nothing....


To answer the original question:
I shoot Raw.
I use whatever colorspace I need, depending on output. Sometimes sRGB, sometimes AdobeRGB, sometimes WideGamut or ProPhotoRGB (both in 16bpc).

What René said. I set the camera to sRGB so I have a constant reference for the histogram(s), but Adobe would do as well for that, and so the thumbnails show up reasonably accurately on any monitor. Final output device is the only thing that should decide your colour space.

Wow. Color isn't a topic where you want to go with popular opinion, since this thread has demonstrated very well that the majority of people have no idea wtf they're on about when it comes to color. Rene has addressed the funniest posts. Adobe RGB for big prints was the funniest!

As i've said all along, people who don't understand color should use sRgb for EVERYTHING. Camera. Photoshop. RAW converter. You're must less likely to mess things up that way.

Anyone who wants to be educated should read this book. People should refrain from giving advice unless they're read this, something similar, or know for sure they know what they're on about.

tim wrote in post #6126089
...people who don't understand color should use sRgb for EVERYTHING. Camera. Photoshop. RAW converter. You're must less likely to mess things up that way.

Agreed, I wanted to say something along these lines, but the way the thread has been going it seemed aginst the grain.

NickSimcheck wrote in post #6126553

Haha!

jr_senator wrote in post #6126554
Agreed, I wanted to say something along these lines, but the way the thread has been going it seemed aginst the grain.

I never go against the grain eh?

You know, I am totally amazed at the awesome photographers that are on this forum that are nice enough to help those of us that are still learning. The ones that don't try to make us feel stupid for asking a question or for responding with an answer that doesn't totally make sense but works for us. The ones that genuinely want to help.

I do truly appreciate your help. Thank you so much!

CyberDyneSystems wrote in post #6122177
AdobeRGB in Camera
Shoot RAW, then convert to 16 bit tiff.
PSCS workspace is AdbobeRGB
Print in AdobeRGB 16 bit.

+ i convert to CMYK for offset printing

René Damkot wrote in post #6123098
.... But it will change the preview and histogram, just like any other in camera parameter!....

That is a good point. Even though it is not all that important for the RAW file, the image on the camera's LCD can look sick if the style is set to Neutral when shooting landscape images. On the other hand, using a style other than neutral might show clipping when the RAW file is actually not being clipped ... I need to check that out to see for certain.

René Damkot wrote in post #6123098
.... Since you can only use colorimetric intent, any out of gamut color will be clipped, unless you bring it in gamut before converting.
So you gain exactly nothing....

I think that you may have left out the word "Relative" before "Colorimetric Intent". At any rate, YES, bringing colors in gamut is my "intent". It may not always work, but I stand a better chance if I start with a wide gamut during the RAW conversion phase.

bill boehme wrote in post #6130469
That is a good point. Even though it is not all that important for the RAW file, the image on the camera's LCD can look sick if the style is set to Neutral when shooting landscape images. On the other hand, using a style other than neutral might show clipping when the RAW file is actually not being clipped ... I need to check that out to see for certain.

Quite possible... I've seen it happen on my 1D2.

Also on neutral, 'cause I have the contrast and saturation settings in my camera set to -1.
I prefer to get a clipping warning (just) before it occurs, since the clipping warning isn't "per channel"...
(So you can have 1 or 2 clipped channels, without a clipping warning in extreme cases)

bill boehme wrote in post #6130469
I think that you may have left out the word "Relative" before "Colorimetric Intent".

Nope. AFAIK Absolute Colorimetric is also available (not that you'd want to use it)...
Perceptual and Saturation aren't.

bill boehme wrote in post #6130469
At any rate, YES, bringing colors in gamut is my "intent". It may not always work, but I stand a better chance if I start with a wide gamut during the RAW conversion phase.

Nice play of words
True. But then you'd have to (manually, using adjustment layers or so) adjust the colors to get them to fit in sRGB gamut.
So you can get better detail in the colors (because they aren't clipped), and you certainly have better control, but it does require knowledge of color management....

sRGB only here.