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Date and Time always needing to be reset on Canon Rebel XSi

 
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Aug 17, 2008 01:19 |  #1

I've tried to set my date and time function many times and it never seems to stick. Consequently, I always have to reset it every time I use the camera. Has this happened to anybody else? Is there some magic way of keeping the date and time set? Its getting a bit tedious!

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Aug 17, 2008 02:11 |  #2

Do you leave the camera with the battery removed?


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Aug 17, 2008 02:15 as a reply to  @ gofer's post |  #3

It is one of the following problems:


  1. The little button cell battery is dead
  2. You installed it backwards
  3. You forgot to install it
  4. The cat ate it before you ever saw it

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Aug 17, 2008 02:40 as a reply to  @ Bill Boehme's post |  #4

Steve, the button cell comes preinstalled, but it could be a bad battery.


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Aug 17, 2008 02:43 |  #5

I work in a camera store and the same thing happens with our display.


Must be a bug or something.


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Aug 17, 2008 03:19 |  #6

bill boehme wrote in post #6122659 (external link)
Steve, the button cell comes preinstalled, but it could be a bad battery.

A bit confusing as the manual for the XSi say's something about the time settings may need resetting if the camera is stored with the battery removed (I'm assuming it's talking about the lithium here). Also, unlike other Canon cameras, it makes no mention of the clock battery type (CR2016 or whatever) in the specification pages. I know some items of electronic equipment use a capacitor to store energy for the clock circuit which is charged from the main battery and I wondered if Canon had done the same with the XSi (cost cutting?). Then I read the review on dpreview and it quite clearly states that a CR2016 is used (hence my deleted post which I assume you were responding to).


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Aug 17, 2008 03:38 as a reply to  @ gofer's post |  #7

Looking at Canon's website could it be that both the 450D (Xsi) and the 1000D do not have a separate battery for the clock? Reading the specifications for all the cameras listed only these two make no mention of a separate CR2016 for the clock. It would make sense of the reported clock resetting issue if the main battery is removed or allowed to become completely discharged.


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Aug 17, 2008 07:31 |  #8
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gofer wrote in post #6122783 (external link)
Looking at Canon's website could it be that both the 450D (Xsi) and the 1000D do not have a separate battery for the clock? Reading the specifications for all the cameras listed only these two make no mention of a separate CR2016 for the clock. It would make sense of the reported clock resetting issue if the main battery is removed or allowed to become completely discharged.

Power *
• Lithium-Ion LP-E5 rechargeable battery (7.4 V, 1050 mAh)
CR2016 Lithium battery (date/time backup)
• Optional ACK-E5 AC adapter kit

http://www.dpreview.co​m …ws/canoneos450d​/page2.asp (external link)

bill boehme gave the right answer in post #3.
Replace the backup battery and the problem will be solved.


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Aug 17, 2008 08:22 |  #9

E2andI wrote in post #6122428 (external link)
I've tried to set my date and time function many times and it never seems to stick.

Return it to Canon for warranty repair.

The XSi/450D date/time battery is not intended to be user-replaceable. One person—often known to be incorrect—claims that it can be accessed by breaking a sealed plastic door. Even if true, doing that would invalidate your warranty.




  
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Aug 17, 2008 08:41 |  #10

Agree with Doug Pardee......I've got a brand new XSi, and just checked the date/time. Mine is right where it's supposed to be, so there must be something funky with your camera. (Nothing personal)


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Aug 17, 2008 09:16 |  #11

The Canon web site does mention a backup battery in the Power Source section of the spec.

http://www.usa.canon.c​om …d=16303#ModelTe​chSpecsAct (external link)

Battery Check
Automatic
Power Saving
Provided. Power turns off after 30 sec., 1, 2, 4, 8, or 15 min.
Back-up Battery
Built-in secondary battery
Start-up Time
Approx. 0.1 sec. (based on CIPA testing standards)

It also mention in the manual on page 29 for the 450D that the Date/Time might reset if the battery (LP-E5) is exhausted or removed during storage.

Another reason the Date/Time may be rest if you use EOS utility (connected to the camera) and have it update the date and time during photo transfer, remote shooting or any of the other function.




  
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Aug 17, 2008 13:39 as a reply to  @ perhayes's post |  #12

I think they've gone to a backup battery that's not user replaceable. It probably charges from the main battery, and will keep the clock running for a while, when you change the main battery, but not for a long time, like in a 40D or similar.

That dpreview lists it is most probably becuase they made an assumption about it being there.
It's not mentioned anywhere in the 450D manual.


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Aug 18, 2008 09:38 as a reply to  @ apersson850's post |  #13

I have exactly the same problem with my 300D!!!

I have posted on so many forums now to try and find an answer but no joy. I have replaced the little lithium battery which is housed in the main battery compartment twice now and no joy - I only had the error come up after i had tried to install new firmware - most people have expressed suprise as to why this might have effected the date/time but there you go - if anyone has any thoughts it would be much appreciated as it's sooooo annoying.




  
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Jan 23, 2010 12:17 |  #14

The issue I had with this is was I was "setting" the time, then pressing the playback button (as I thought this corresponded with OK on the screen).

This made it look like I'd set the time, as it cleared the screen. But it hadn't. So every time I switched the camera on, it asked me to set the date and time.

If you use the arrow keys to navigate to OK after setting the time, then press Set, that actually sets the time. And it sticks. Hope this actually is your problem!




  
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Jan 23, 2010 12:41 |  #15

There was a thread not long ago where it was pretty convincingly determined that no, you cannot replace the backup battery in the XSi. I had that camera for 8 months and never realized that fact, but I never had need to go looking on the camera for the backup battery.



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