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Aug 18, 2008 15:00 |  #1

Hey there Guys,

How many of you have seen this body of work:

http://blog.chasejarvi​s.com …-work-celebrity-maps.html (external link)

It is by Chase Jarvis (much respect) and i am having a hell of a time figuring how he got the sensor bloom to look like that!?!?

I have tried similair setups, but have failed in creating the horizontal and vertical bands that connect the lights. All i get with my attempts is plain old lens flare look.

It has been suggested that this is something that can only happen in older generation CMOS's, and i have thought that maybe it has something to do with the nature and number of fins in the lens's aperature.

Any thoughts?


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Aug 18, 2008 15:09 |  #2

If you look closely at the images, you will see three Pro7 flash heads on each light stand. I do not believe that he used any reflectors on the heads just pointed right back at the camera. I didn't look to see if the subject was lit from the front but a V flat will bounce plenty of light back at her.


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Aug 18, 2008 15:21 |  #3

You need to figure out how to create sensor bloom. You can make it happen in camera phones and cheap digital cameras but I've never seen it happen on a modern DSLR but there's probably a way to force it to happen.



  
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Aug 18, 2008 17:13 |  #4

Here's a "normal "shot of a flash at f/16.


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Here's a shot of the same flash at f/16 but with a "star" filter held in front of the lens (because the filter isn't the right size for the lens).


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Aug 18, 2008 18:36 |  #5

this guys has unlimited resources...sigh


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Aug 18, 2008 18:43 |  #6

photog_87 wrote in post #6131863 (external link)
Hey there Guys,

How many of you have seen this body of work:

http://blog.chasejarvi​s.com …-work-celebrity-maps.html (external link)

It is by Chase Jarvis (much respect) and i am having a hell of a time figuring how he got the sensor bloom to look like that!?!?

I have tried similair setups, but have failed in creating the horizontal and vertical bands that connect the lights. All i get with my attempts is plain old lens flare look.

It has been suggested that this is something that can only happen in older generation CMOS's, and i have thought that maybe it has something to do with the nature and number of fins in the lens's aperature.

Any thoughts?

Ask him!

Seriously - Chase is VERY good at helping other people out. Don't say you want to replicate his shot or his style, but that you want that bloom effect for something else -- he will respond.




  
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Aug 18, 2008 19:59 |  #7

i've seen blooming like that when pointing a 50mw laser at a CCD chip... - wierd vertical stripes too - and it takes a second for the effect to dissapate - so not something to try at home ;)

as for the effect here- would a cheap chinese UV filter have that effect? (diffision of v-bright areas through the substrates?)

or maybe the whole thing is shot through a glass window? (that's having the same effect)


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Aug 18, 2008 21:11 |  #8

photog_87 wrote in post #6131863 (external link)
It has been suggested that this is something that can only happen in older generation CMOS's, and i have thought that maybe it has something to do with the nature and number of fins in the lens's aperature.

From the comments on Chase's blog --- Chase said:

yes this phenomena is CCD contingent I'm told. These were shot with the Hassie, not the cmos D3.




  
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Aug 19, 2008 10:22 |  #9

the bloom is caused by some problems in the phase one back... here's a post about it

http://jeffsingerphoto​graphy.com …/20/blinded-by-the-light/ (external link)


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Aug 19, 2008 10:30 |  #10

Sensor designs differ, CMOS doesn't read out the same way as a CCD and blooming like that is largely dependent on the CCD readout structure.


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Aug 20, 2008 10:22 |  #11

You might be able to reproduce something like with something blocking part of the light source. Get something that will block light. Cut a circle (not to big) in the center and then cut out a plus sign over the circle. Maybe that will work?


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Aug 20, 2008 11:21 |  #12

photog_87 wrote in post #6131863 (external link)
Hey there Guys,

How many of you have seen this body of work:

http://blog.chasejarvi​s.com …-work-celebrity-maps.html (external link)

It is by Chase Jarvis (much respect) and i am having a hell of a time figuring how he got the sensor bloom to look like that!?!?

I have tried similair setups, but have failed in creating the horizontal and vertical bands that connect the lights. All i get with my attempts is plain old lens flare look.

It has been suggested that this is something that can only happen in older generation CMOS's, and i have thought that maybe it has something to do with the nature and number of fins in the lens's aperature.

Any thoughts?

I have seen that kind of blooming on my old Nikon D50, whenever a highly overexposed light source was hitting the sensor directly, BAM bloom. the D70 and D70s exhibited the same behavior


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