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Is my XSi defective?

 
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Aug 20, 2008 02:26 |  #1

Here is a 100% crop. If you look closely on the body line between the A-pillar and the door, there is a stair case pattern / jaggies.

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I don't know if there is a defect with my camera or I'm just being too paranoid?

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Aug 20, 2008 03:21 |  #2
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OMG! Go throw that in a dumpster now! Dont even let it stay in the house with you overnight, its pure evil!!

Why do pixel peepers buy entry level cameras? :p


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Aug 20, 2008 03:25 |  #3

garycoleman wrote in post #6142549 (external link)
I'm just being too paranoid?

I'll vouch for that one.

That's an 100% crop right?


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Aug 20, 2008 03:27 as a reply to  @ 2112's post |  #4

Hi Garycoleman,

100% crop will show you a lot of stuff, which you really don't want to see.
But to be very sure about your investment, take more pictures (where you have minimum colors in the background)to see, if the problem repeats. Do the testing with light and dark backgrounds. If the problem repeats, then exchange the camera for a new one, if possible. Otherwise, call Canon service center. Be prepared with a lot of patience and evidence to show with the service department.

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Aug 20, 2008 11:20 |  #5

Collin85 wrote in post #6142678 (external link)
I'll vouch for that one.

That's an 100% crop right?

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yes it's 100% crop.

This is my first DSLR so I'm probably beeing too critical about everything. I always thought the anti-aliasing filter is supposed to eliminate the jagged pattern.


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Aug 20, 2008 11:25 |  #6

i had the same feeling when I just got my first dslr. Just take more pictures and compare. I DOUBT if there there is anything wrong with your xsi.


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Aug 20, 2008 11:30 |  #7

Definitely paranoia. Cure yourself by taking thousands of pictures.




  
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Aug 20, 2008 11:32 |  #8

Assuming you shot that as a jpeg, it is likely the result of jpeg compression -- the more compressed the jpeg, the more "artifacts" that show up. Try setting your jpeg settings to the highest quality/largest file and then check. If that doesn't work, switch to RAW and check the results. High quality pictures shouldn't show jaggies at 100%.


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Aug 20, 2008 12:37 |  #9

tonylong wrote in post #6144702 (external link)
Assuming you shot that as a jpeg, it is likely the result of jpeg compression -- the more compressed the jpeg, the more "artifacts" that show up. Try setting your jpeg settings to the highest quality/largest file and then check. If that doesn't work, switch to RAW and check the results. High quality pictures shouldn't show jaggies at 100%.

I shot in RAW. When I viewed it at 100% in DPP in RAW, it still showed the jaggies. It is only a tiny bit worse in the converted JPG I posted.

Most of my nature and people shots don't show jaggies. It usually happens when I shoot light colored cars and the jaggies show up on the body gap lines.


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Aug 20, 2008 15:51 as a reply to  @ garycoleman's post |  #10

The problem with your cars is the high contrast between the paintwork and the body gap lines. Anti-aliasing works by modifying the color of bordering pixels to something in between the paint and the gap. This works well when the transition is reasonably smooth, so that several pixels can be given different shades, from bright to black, to smoothen out the transition.

But here, the change from bright, almost white, to black is so abrupt, that already after two pixels or so, you should have gone from one extreme to another. There simply isn't resolution enough to smooth out such a transient. So you get jagged lines. And paranoia.

Try interpolating the image to 40 megapixels and see what difference that makes. Apart from making a HUGE TIFF file.


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Aug 20, 2008 15:57 as a reply to  @ apersson850's post |  #11

The quality of the lens can have a lot to do with a 100% crop.


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Aug 20, 2008 17:47 |  #12

Are you the real Gary Coleman?


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Aug 20, 2008 17:52 |  #13

AdamLewis wrote in post #6146846 (external link)
Are you the real Gary Coleman?

If he is, it would certainly explain the angle of the shot....


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Aug 20, 2008 17:53 |  #14

sunbeast wrote in post #6146881 (external link)
If he is, it would certainly explain the angle of the shot....

I was going to post that exact same thing but figured with my history, Id get banned for it :p


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