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Aug 20, 2008 14:14 |  #1

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Aug 20, 2008 15:30 |  #2

If you want to get birds, you need a long lens or a blind. A nearby feeder is helpful.

The subject is too small a part of the image. Otherwise, composition is nothing to write home about. You could try cropping more tightly in the bird, but it would be a major crop indeed.


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Aug 20, 2008 15:32 |  #3

joedlh wrote in post #6146095 (external link)
If you want to get birds, you need a long lens or a blind. A nearby feeder is helpful.

The subject is too small a part of the image. Otherwise, composition is nothing to write home about. You could try cropping more tightly in the bird, but it would be a major crop indeed.

Its not a birding shot the bird just happens to be in it. But ok you don't get the composition, fair enough.


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Aug 20, 2008 15:39 |  #4

Without the bird, there isn't much else to look at in the frame that grabs my attention.


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Aug 20, 2008 15:53 as a reply to  @ aram535's post |  #5

Ok, I guess it doesn't work then.

What I saw when I took it was....

3 triangular frames. 2 metal frames and 1 of branches. The 3 frames make another triangle, if you join them. So we have a triplet of 3 sided objects connected both obviously and subtly. The branches make a perfect frame, and a bird happens to perch inside that natural frame, giving a foreground interest.

It was supposed to have symmetry, framing and contrast between nature and man made structures. The bird sitting on the branch and not the metal was supposed to add to that idea, against the idea that nature was mimicking man. The crop was very deliberate.

I like these ideas in photography but I think I'm about the only one who does :o


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Aug 20, 2008 17:07 |  #6

Now that you explain it, I see it - but that ruins your initial idea I think. It could be the size of the image that isn't helping. Try posting it again at 1024 or something to see if someone else sees it.


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Aug 20, 2008 19:45 as a reply to  @ aram535's post |  #7

The composition is great. But with the current exposure, the main subject (the bird) doesn't compete enough for attention. IMO, Dodging the bird to selectively give it more exposure would benefit your image. The bird just needs more emphasis.


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Aug 21, 2008 02:21 |  #8

aram535 wrote in post #6146635 (external link)
Now that you explain it, I see it - but that ruins your initial idea I think. It could be the size of the image that isn't helping. Try posting it again at 1024 or something to see if someone else sees it.

You can click on the image for a 1024 version now that i've figured out the way to merge and image and a link.

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The composition is great. But with the current exposure, the main subject (the bird) doesn't compete enough for attention. IMO, Dodging the bird to selectively give it more exposure would benefit your image. The bird just needs more emphasis.

Interesting idea. I wanted less emphasis on the bird so people would look around the image more, but maybe your right. Need to work on my dodging and burning anyway, so I'll try it later. Thanks.


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Aug 21, 2008 03:11 |  #9

Interesting idea with the symmetry, and I think the reason why it's not too obvious is that the foliage on the branches sort of camoflages the triangle made by the branches intersecting. Also, the foliage makes the image so busy that it's difficult to focus on anything in particular. The bird and the triangles get lost behind and around the numerous leaves. The idea in your head was creative, nature just didn't want to cooperate.




  
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