TF* - Kills the Industry

The TF failed in killing the industry!!!

Did this documentary ever come out?

domat wrote in post #13911048
Did this documentary ever come out?

Probably not and whatever the f--k is TF never really harm the modeling industry. What was their arguments 3 years ago? If you have a camera and internet access, you can be a model? Some of the people commenting on the clip wanted to be a model. Hehehehe....when was the last time they ever look at themselves in the mirrors???

Jim G wrote in post #6201143
I don't think it's going to kill the industry... nor is it going to go anywhere. I think the industry's undergoing change with the influx of DSLRs and hordes more shooters wanting to be a part of it but I don't think that's going to kill it off, either... not yet, anyway. I'd be more worried about microstock.

I totally agree... photography business is seeing more competition.

Lol....always nice to dig up an old topic TF is not a new trend, it's simply the merging of two industries who can, at times, trade services in an effort to push each other forward. It never has and never will "ruin the industry".

If your worried about TF then you have to consider the fact that you didn't build your business correctly. As well as the fact that you are concentrating on what your potential customer can give to you rather than what you provide for the customer. Im doing tfcd work to build my portfolio , and to understand what customers want. I use it to hone in on my ideal customer, and test marketing ideas. I find that i get much more value out of the information i receive and testing i do, than the money I would get for a sitting fee.

cire001 wrote in post #13942399
If your worried about TF then you have to consider the fact that you didn't build your business correctly. As well as the fact that you are concentrating on what your potential customer can give to you rather than what you provide for the customer. Im doing tfcd work to build my portfolio , and to understand what customers want. I use it to hone in on my ideal customer, and test marketing ideas. I find that i get much more value out of the information i receive and testing i do, than the money I would get for a sitting fee.

I agree. I've only done one TF session and the lessons I've learned were valuable in allowing me to adjust my shooting and processing techniques, as well as my rates. I'm for doing TF work, BUT, you have to limit it to how much you do otherwise you get to be known as the guy doing TF work. It's good to use to build a relationship too. I recently was on the set of a music video shoot for a DJ and met a lot of models and other photographers. I took some BTS pics and provided them to the individuals. I made over 50+ new facebook friends that weekend, so i effectively marketed myself because now I have 50+ new people to pick from when it comes time to do projects. It's especially good for when you need to cast models for shoots that you're getting paid for. Just provide some pics to them afterward and you're set (if your contract allows that).

Jadam wrote in post #6204942
That one ikea girl is such a laugh "TFP, in my own words is like time for prints" yes sweetie, because time for pints is completely your own words, all the photographers I know use the acronym TFP for meaning Totally Free Photography. And come on, that story at the end LOL.

"TFP" meant Time for Prints since forty years ago, at least. Perhaps people who started in the digital age do not know that.

IMO, TFP is for image production professionals (photographers, models, stylists, et cetera) to share their talents to produce portfolio images for all...not for images that will be used commercially. For that, it certainly doesn't hurt the industry--that's a "business complimentary" product.

If a photographer is only giving a model her own images for work he's plans to sell commercially, he's opening himself up for a lawsuit--and a model release won't be protection. A set of images to the model has not been considered "valuable consideration" by the courts when the photographer knew at the time he was going to use the images commercially.