1D Mark III now or wait till Photokina

05Xrunner wrote in post #6200167
I love post like this...People just making up garbage

You wait and see

Think about it, Im not saying it WILL shatter it no matter what you shoot, but lets be honest...the Mark III (BOTH) are great cameras yeah, but not THAT great? With their same technology and a little more it won't take much to beat them in certain areas... I've shot both numerous times. The Ds A LOT... and yeah 21mp allows lots of cropping room but the ISO isnt that great...the MKIII wins over all canons in that field but the new 5D will beat it easily and if at 15mp and 6.5fps? hmmm...you'll likely see a lot of MKIII's going up for sale

I talked to my wedding guy and he said if canon does what they should be doing with this release he'll most likely sell one of his 2 Ds and pick up two 5DMKII's with the same money...ONly the Ds will then be used for studio work and the two 5DMKII's him and I will shoot the weddings with

saiminyaku wrote in post #6199926
i love my 1D Mark III

If this is true, hang tough. Me, I have never loved my 40D, so the 50D is right for me.

Well, the claimed ISO improvement on the 50D is about 1-1.5 stops over the 40D, which puts it right around the 1DMKIII.

So let's see how the 5D MKII will improve over the 50D/5D/1DMKIII.

Let's see what they push out. If the 5D MKII does >= 15MP, 1-1.5 ISO stop over the 5D MKI, ISO 3200 native 12800 expanded, 5fps, weather sealed, and all the rest of the stuff the 50D has and at $3000, then yeah, that's a pretty sweet deal. I don't think it'll do > 5-6fps...that's just my guess.

The 1DMKIII is a faster "operating" body. 10fps is DOUBLE 5fps. It is weather sealed. Has a more robust AF system. Battery lasts forever and then some. Dual memory slots. Etc. Etc. Just a different beast of a camera.

Looking forward to the release of the 5D MKII, that's for sure.

wallybud wrote in post #6200415
Think about it, Im not saying it WILL shatter it no matter what you shoot, but lets be honest...the Mark III (BOTH) are great cameras yeah, but not THAT great? With their same technology and a little more it won't take much to beat them in certain areas... I've shot both numerous times. The Ds A LOT... and yeah 21mp allows lots of cropping room but the ISO isnt that great...the MKIII wins over all canons in that field but the new 5D will beat it easily and if at 15mp and 6.5fps? hmmm...you'll likely see a lot of MKIII's going up for sale

I talked to my wedding guy and he said if canon does what they should be doing with this release he'll most likely sell one of his 2 Ds and pick up two 5DMKII's with the same money...ONly the Ds will then be used for studio work and the two 5DMKII's him and I will shoot the weddings with

nicksan wrote in post #6200481
Well, the claimed ISO improvement on the 50D is about 1-1.5 stops over the 40D, which puts it right around the 1DMKIII.

So let's see how the 5D MKII will improve over the 50D/5D/1DMKIII.

Let's see what they push out. If the 5D MKII does >= 15MP, 1-1.5 ISO stop over the 5D MKI, ISO 3200 native 12800 expanded, 5fps, weather sealed, and all the rest of the stuff the 50D has and at $3000, then yeah, that's a pretty sweet deal. I don't think it'll do > 5-6fps...that's just my guess.

The 1DMKIII is a faster "operating" body. 10fps is DOUBLE 5fps. It is weather sealed. Has a more robust AF system. Battery lasts forever and then some. Dual memory slots. Etc. Etc. Just a different beast of a camera.

Looking forward to the release of the 5D MKII, that's for sure.

True! Although like I said geared toward different things...It most likely wont be for sports photographers however I think it Will hit 6 fps...it has to...and I can catch anything I need to in wildlife with my 40D's 6.5fps so if the 5D can hit that you might see wildlife photogs taking a liking to the smaller body and such

as for the af system, if the 50D does what it should then maybe the 5D will be an improvement on that who knows where the speed will be...maybe not as many cross points and such but still? who know hahah

I guess it will come down to personal preference as always between the (hopefully 5DMKII) and the Mark III...diff people will want different things from each and buy accordingly

timbop wrote in post #6200310
Honestly, I would avoid the mk3 right now. If a new one comes out at photokina, then you'll take a huge depreciation hit right away, and probably regret the decision. Even worse, it will always have a stigma - which will kill your resale value as well.

If you really HAVE to get a new camera now, then look into a 1dm2 for half the money. If a new mk3n comes out, you'll probably still be able to resell it for a minimal loss (it's already taken most of its depreciation). Even better, it's a great camera that is RELIABLE to the core. It's only sin is the smaller lcd

Cameras, printers, and other things don't come out AT photokina (well, some do, but very rare and usually not a consumer camera product, and yes, a 1d is a consumer product), they come out FOR photokina. The general "rule" for cameras is, if it's not released within the week before photokina, it won't be released until after photokina.

One thing to bear in mind is that there might be some deals out there if they announce the new bodies at Photokina, even if the cameras are a few months out.

On another note, Chuck Norris, I mean Chuck Westfall, has so much as said that the 1.3 sensor days are numbered. It might be that the Mark IV (Adam Lewis has convinced me there will not be an N with a new processor out there) is a full frame with a machine gun shutter. Or, maybe the 1Ds stands alone.

More to follow next tuesday?!?!

My money is on that they will not produce a new 1D this early. The issues with the MIII have been sorted out and the current coppies are fantastic. The new 5DII or 50D will NOT blow the MIII away (why would Canon do that?!). So I say buy now (in fact I just did that 3 weeks ago and have been very happy with the MIII). Good luck!

I just bought one as a second body, I also preferred to wait a year before buying. I will be surprised if any sort of upgrade will be available this soon. But then again what is two weeks to wait, never know what might pop out. If any upgrade comes out it will be a while before it is in the shops. I see you only shoot with short focals, remember that you moving from a 1.6x to a 1.3x sensor, might have to buy a 70-200 also

texaskev wrote in post #6201375
My money is on that they will not produce a new 1D this early. The issues with the MIII have been sorted out and the current coppies are fantastic. The new 5DII or 50D will NOT blow the MIII away (why would Canon do that?!). So I say buy now (in fact I just did that 3 weeks ago and have been very happy with the MIII). Good luck!

I will not be so sure about a 5D II, the "old" 5D gave the 1Ds II a run for it's money in the IQ department and was until the 1D III came out the best high ISO/low noise sensor around. I will not use words such as "blow away" but will also not be surprised if a new 5D II equals or even better the IQ/noise from a mk III. (first have to wait and see if there is a 5D II anyway)

Wait until Photokina has passed. Are you in such a hurry? In 2 - 3 weeks you'll know if you get a new version or get the current mkIII. I can wait and I'll wait. Doesn't stop me getting good pictures in the meantime.

bugger buying any new camera- I just looked at your website- you're doing just fine with what you got!

If oyu were going to upgrade, wouldn't a 5D be better for you?

Originally Posted by timbop

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Honestly, I would avoid the mk3 right now. If a new one comes out at photokina, then you'll take a huge depreciation hit right away, and probably regret the decision. Even worse, it will always have a stigma - which will kill your resale value as well.

If you really HAVE to get a new camera now, then look into a 1dm2 for half the money. If a new mk3n comes out, you'll probably still be able to resell it for a minimal loss (it's already taken most of its depreciation). Even better, it's a great camera that is RELIABLE to the core. It's only sin is the smaller lcd
Cameras, printers, and other things don't come out AT photokina (well, some do, but very rare and usually not a consumer camera product, and yes, a 1d is a consumer product), they come out FOR photokina. The general "rule" for cameras is, if it's not released within the week before photokina, it won't be released until after photokina.

Exactly!
It takes Nikon a long time to come up with new cameras; Canon cameras are usually available in stores shortly, within weeks, after being announced.

If I was in OP’s shoes, I’d definitely wait for Photokina..

wallybud wrote in post #6200415
Think about it, Im not saying it WILL shatter it no matter what you shoot, but lets be honest...the Mark III (BOTH) are great cameras yeah, but not THAT great? With their same technology and a little more it won't take much to beat them in certain areas... I've shot both numerous times. The Ds A LOT... and yeah 21mp allows lots of cropping room but the ISO isnt that great...the MKIII wins over all canons in that field but the new 5D will beat it easily and if at 15mp and 6.5fps? hmmm...you'll likely see a lot of MKIII's going up for sale

I talked to my wedding guy and he said if canon does what they should be doing with this release he'll most likely sell one of his 2 Ds and pick up two 5DMKII's with the same money...ONly the Ds will then be used for studio work and the two 5DMKII's him and I will shoot the weddings with

Since we are all speculating...I mean come one...when has the general public been right on what Canon will do???? I mean a 50D so close to the 40D????

Anyway....since we are guessing....I would say no new 5D this time....you would have to think Canon wouldn't take a chance on coming out with something close or better to the D700.....and something that isn't based off their current AF technology.

And.....no matter what the 5DII is like....if a tog sells his MKIII for one...then it would be the tog that just bought one because....and didn't really need it. If you have a working MKIII then you know it is the best Canon has to offer....and no XXD or XD body will beat it.

Hermeto wrote in post #6202423
Exactly!
It takes Nikon a long time to come up with new cameras; Canon cameras are usually available in stores shortly, within weeks, after being announced.

If I was in OP’s shoes, I’d definitely wait for Photokina..

50D was announced by Canon this week. It won't be here until, October.