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Feb 04, 2005 04:21 |  #16

i want to buy the lensmate adapter how to choose the adapter either 52mm or 58?
i really don't know about this..

if i have bought the adapter, how to choose the telephoto or wide angle? what manufacturer/brand?..

can u explain me further?




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Feb 04, 2005 05:43 as a reply to  @ infeeneetee's post |  #17

Okay,

First things first, the lensmateonline website www.lensmateonline.com (external link) has pictures of both the 52mm and 58mm lens adapters and all the telephoto and wideangle lens that can be attached to these. So have a look and work out what appeals to you first.

I suggest you then determine which of the lens attachmens you are going to buy, which brand and then choose the adapter to match the thread size on the wide or telephoto lens. (have a look at wide angle and telephoto effects of differnt lens manufacturers page).

Eg. if you decide to buy the canon telephoto or wide angle lens's then you will need the 58mm adapter. However if you are thinking of any of the other lens manufacturers you will need to check what size these are and choose the adapter that matches the thread size.

I have both the 52 and 58mm adapters, but i find that the 52mm adapter provides the best look. Ill post a pic with my camera, flash, filters and adapter tube soon.

My best adivce is that if your looking at saving some money and are serious about buying a telephoto or wide angle lens, then do a little homework, and check out the lensmate website under the camera you have. There are some sample photos for the g2 - g6 on the effect that differentsize adapters and alternate lens have with respect to vignetting, barrelling, view finder and flash blocking. Only you can decide what is acceptable to you.

If your only after an adapter to attach filters and protective uv filters, then i think the 52mm is the way to go.

There is additional info also on these forums under g cameras for adapter lens.


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Feb 04, 2005 07:58 |  #18

I agree with Nabil-A, any lenses or filters that you attach to your camera will cost less in the 52mm size, and be much more compact. The Raynox 6600 for example, is smaller, cheaper, and produces less barrel distortion than Canon's wide converter. ( Yes, the Raynox is slightly soft in the corners). As Nabil-A mentioned, the Lensmate site has images taken with the different converters, and images of the converters themselves, side by side so you can see the size difference between them.




  
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Feb 07, 2005 15:06 |  #19

can i attach all the filters in front of wide angle or teleconverter?.. im just curious about this.. ;)




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Feb 07, 2005 19:08 |  #20

It depends whether the converter has FRONT threads or not. Remember too that most converters have a larger front thread, than their mounting thread at the rear that mounts to the adapter.

I know that this is going to get me in trouble but, except for the polarizer, most other filter effects can be done sucessfully with software. Start adding up the prices of all the various filters you want for all the lenses you own, and software such as that from NIK becomes downright affordable.




  
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Feb 07, 2005 20:59 as a reply to  @ Mr. Messenger's post |  #21

With respect to the canon telephoto and wide angle lenses, there are no external threads to enable attachment of a lens hood or any filters. As is noted in a previous thread.
https://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthre​ad.php?t=54089

However, other lens attachments may have external threads that will enable filter or other attachments. Youll have to check this. See the lensmateonline website.

As Mr Messenger has mentioned, youll have to make sure that what ever filter or lens hood attachment you plan on buying and attaching to your lens (those that have an external thread) is sized for the external thread size of the lens.

Additionally, youll have to be wary of any vignetting or shading of the flash in placing too many attachments to your lens.

I find currently that my lensmate 52mm adapter, with a HOYA UV filter is fine and even when i attach my polariser to the adapter, UV combination for outdoor shots, i have no vignetting. My 58mm adapter however does cause some vignetting issues.

In my opinion and as is commented on many times in these forums, if you search enough, the add on telephoto lens does not provide any significant improvements to justify that kind of cost outlay.


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Feb 08, 2005 02:57 |  #22

Nabil-A wrote:
In my opinion and as is commented on many times in these forums, if you search enough, the add on telephoto lens does not provide any significant improvements to justify that kind of cost outlay.

I do not completely agree with this.

Take a look at this example that I did with my G2. It's shot from the same location with the camera (without a converter), with my Kenko LD20T and a (ahem, let's just say ... not of the highest quality) Danubia 3.5x teleconverter I bought of eBay some time ago for some 70$.

I knew that the Danubia lens would have vignetting (there are not many 3.5x teleconverters with lenses large enough that they do not vignet).

Still, I was amazed to see the level of detail that you gain over the original G2 image. You definitely can't do that with cropping your original photo.

Original G2 image: http://www.photo.net …db/photo?photo_​id=3100068 (external link)

Image with 2x teleconverter: http://www.photo.net …db/photo?photo_​id=3100092 (external link)

Image with 3.5x teleconverter: http://www.photo.net …db/photo?photo_​id=3100085 (external link)

If you click on the 'larger' button in photo.net for the 100% images, you can actually read the small print on the signpost in the center of the image in the 3.5x version.

All the shots are taken as JPG with no post processing, so I think with RAW/USM it would be even better.

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Feb 08, 2005 03:29 as a reply to  @ Mr. Messenger's post |  #23

The Canon lens shade LH-DC30 (that includes a tube) is plastic but has an aluminum tubing that attaches to the body. The shade can be removed and turned around for storage, still attached to the metal tube. It is very effective for protection and warding off sun dogs.




  
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Feb 08, 2005 03:56 as a reply to  @ Superbaldguy's post |  #24

Sorry Andy, no offence intended, but im not overally impressed with the idea of spending $299 AUD dollars for a canon telephoto lens that will increase my zoom range from 4 to a little of 7x.

In my opinion im better saving that money and putting it towards a DSLR camera. Yes, they are more expensive and less versatile, than my current G6, but lets face it, money spent on a DSLR and additional lens's has probably a better life than accessorising my G6. ( note id still keep th G6 - the g series cameras are great).

Im still rather skeptical with going to non canon telephoto lens's even though ive looked into them in a fair bit of depth Besides its a personal opinion, the increase for me from 4 to 7x or 8x for that matter (with say your kenko lens add on) is still not that significant to me, when 4x does everything for me now.

Appreciate where your coming from, yes an add on lens will squeeze a little more focal length out, possibly up to 2x as much without any vignetting, but at the end of the day i guess im after more flexibility with spending money and the DSLR path for me offers me the ability to get a little more serious with zoom and wide angle.

Now the canon wide angle adapter, thats another story, definetely go there !!!!


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Feb 08, 2005 04:08 |  #25

Nabil ...

some thoughts & factoids from 2 years of use of converters on the G2...

You don't actually get 7x zoom. You get 1-4x and 6.5-7x (but no 4-6.5x, because any teleconverter will vignet there)

I rarely ever used my teleconverters on my G2. If you are a birder, then you'll certainly do it to get any mm of focal length, but for normal application, the zoom range is ok (like you mentioned).
I sometimes used the 2x Kenko in order to get some kind of bokeh (the G2's weak point).
Birders might want to check out the CrystalVue sharpshooter 8x lens. And a good tripod to go with it.

I used my Olympus WCON-08 a lot. But the reason for this is simple. You can always crop, but adding something to a picture takes preparation (and the stitch assistant :lol: )

As to better spending your money on a DSLR and the lenses to go with it ... couldn't agree more. BTW ... why did you go for the G6 instead of the DRebel?

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Feb 08, 2005 17:09 as a reply to  @ Andy_T's post |  #26

You don't actually get 7x zoom. You get 1-4x and 6.5-7x (but no 4-6.5x, because any teleconverter will vignet there)

Exactly what i meant. You dont get full range usage.

Well my first digital camera was a kodak dx2900 or somethinglike that. 2 or megapixels. Didnt know alot about digital camera then, passed it onto my sister, who i believe now owns a Fujifinepix 5500.

In anycase i did a short course on photography to fill between work and weekends and guess what hit me like a bug ! :) LOL.

Thought the G6 would be a good way to build up my skills before investing in a DSLR. Its the first G series camera i have, and now i that i have it i probably wont let go of it. Even when i go DSLR, i guess it will be the holiday / carry around camera. Im no pro and dont intend to become one, but i think DSLR will be my next move in learning a little more about photography and generally having some fun.


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Feb 10, 2005 03:12 |  #27

im waiting my kenko filters ordered from bugeyedigital.com... do kenko filters cause any vignetting? hopefully not... if yes, i will regret :(




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Feb 10, 2005 03:21 as a reply to  @ infeeneetee's post |  #28

Which filters did you order?
On what adapter do you want to use them?

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Feb 11, 2005 07:49 |  #29

i use lensmate 52mm and the filters i ordered are kenko UV Haze, Polarizer, ND filter.. what do u think?




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Feb 12, 2005 05:46 as a reply to  @ infeeneetee's post |  #30

I have my 52mm adapter on almost always, and take my polariser off when taking indoor photos.

Even with my uv haze filter and polariser on together during the day, i do not get any vignetting. (Note i have hoya filters, but i dont think it will be any different with Kenko as the thread will be similiar).

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