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Sep 01, 2008 16:08 |  #1

I have a 400 2.8 L IS and 1.4 x Mk I converter with it. I am planing to get a 2x Converter with that to get more closer to the wildlife. Which tele converter is best to use as the Canon one 2X as i have heard degrades a lot of quality.

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Sep 01, 2008 18:33 |  #2

You are not going to get better results from any brand than you will from the Canon. 2x is going to degrade regardless.



  
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Sep 01, 2008 21:52 as a reply to  @ jr_senator's post |  #3

Do you planning on stacking your TCs?? If so,,not a good idea..


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Sep 01, 2008 21:58 |  #4

maxloxton wrote in post #6220937 (external link)
I have a 400 2.8 L IS and 1.4 x Mk I converter with it. I am planing to get a 2x Converter with that to get more closer to the wildlife. Which tele converter is best to use as the Canon one 2X as i have heard degrades a lot of quality.

Any suggestions/Advice?

IMHO - get rid of the Mark I 1.4 and pick up a new 1.4 II. better weather sealing and IMHO better optics & performance. Same for the 2x make sure to get the new version II.

The version I are like putting cheap tires on an expensive sports car...




  
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Sep 01, 2008 22:22 |  #5

Palladium wrote in post #6222844 (external link)
IMHO - get rid of the Mark I 1.4 and pick up a new 1.4 II. better weather sealing and IMHO better optics & performance. Same for the 2x make sure to get the new version II.

The version I are like putting cheap tires on an expensive sports car...

There is no, nada, none, like zippo difference between the mk1 and mk2 1.4x TC. The optics were were not changed, only weather sealing was added.



  
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Sep 01, 2008 22:33 |  #6

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There is no, nada, none, like zippo difference between the mk1 and mk2 1.4x TC. The optics were were not changed, only weather sealing was added.

http://www.fredmiranda​.com …duct=119&sort=7​&thecat=31 (external link)

Below is from the above link - the OP has an Image Stabilization lens so he need the Mark II to maintain the IS function. In my experience the image quality is inproved using the Mark II versions.

Description: for the 2x II
This extender has been re-designed optically and offers excellent performance with compatible EF lenses (same as the Extender EF 1.4x II). Features a new seven-element design, and same weather-resistant design and anti-reflection internal construction as the new EF 1.4x II. The EF 2x II doubles the focal length of any lens it's mounted to, and reduces its effective aperture by two stops. With the EF 2x II, AF is possible with any EOS body if the lens has an f/2.8 or faster maximum aperture, and compatible Image Stabilization lenses maintain the IS feature when used with any current EOS camera.




  
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Sep 01, 2008 23:16 |  #7

Palladium wrote in post #6223033 (external link)
http://www.fredmiranda​.com …duct=119&sort=7​&thecat=31 (external link)

Below is from the above link - the OP has an Image Stabilization lens so he need the Mark II to maintain the IS function. In my experience the image quality is inproved using the Mark II versions.

I said "There is no, nada, none, like zippo difference between the mk1 and mk2 1.4x TC. The optics were were not changed, only weather sealing was added."



  
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Sep 01, 2008 23:44 |  #8

jr_senator wrote in post #6223258 (external link)
I said "There is no, nada, none, like zippo difference between the mk1 and mk2 1.4x TC. ..."

I'm trying to help the original poster and not trying to confuse him and his situation.

He has an IS lens and need the Mark II extenders to maintain the IS FUNCTIONS. The older version of the extenders will work but IN MY PERSONAL EXPERIENCE he will get better images with the newer Mark II versions of the extenders. I know I did when I upgraded.

Let's add that Canon service does not really service the extenders so I think it's a good idea to use something that at least has a warranty.

To recap when I was in the OP position I upgraded to the new Mark II versions and most photog's would probally do the same.

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Sep 02, 2008 02:29 |  #9

Palladium wrote in post #6223383 (external link)
I'm trying to help the original poster and not trying to confuse him and his situation.

He has an IS lens and need the Mark II extenders to maintain the IS FUNCTIONS. The older version of the extenders will work but IN MY PERSONAL EXPERIENCE he will get better images with the newer Mark II versions of the extenders. I know I did when I upgraded.

Let's add that Canon service does not really service the extenders so I think it's a good idea to use something that at least has a warranty.

To recap when I was in the OP position I upgraded to the new Mark II versions and most photog's would probally do the same.

Peace Out :rolleyes:

You were originally trying to persuade the OP to upgrade his 1.4x TC for reasons of "better optics & performance". Now you say it is needed "to maintain the IS FUNCTIONS". I think that your comments can only serve to "confuse him and his situation" :)

According to every source of information I have found, the only reason to upgrade is for weather sealing - they are optically identical. Even Canon don't claim to have improved the optics. The Mk II has new anti-reflective coatings, but I've not yet seen anyone claim that this makes a difference. The TC has no effect on IS! Perhaps your old Mk1 converter was faulty?


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Sep 02, 2008 10:41 |  #10

maxloxton wrote in post #6220937 (external link)
I have a 400 2.8 L IS and 1.4 x Mk I converter with it. I am planing to get a 2x Converter with that to get more closer to the wildlife. Which tele converter is best to use as the Canon one 2X as i have heard degrades a lot of quality.

Any suggestions/Advice?

The Canon 2x will degrade the IQ but so will every other 2x (some will degrade even more than the Canon).


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Sep 02, 2008 11:40 |  #11

Palladium wrote in post #6223383 (external link)
I'm trying to help the original poster and not trying to confuse him and his situation.

With statements like, "The version I are like putting cheap tires on an expensive sports car."? Since there is no optical difference between the 1.4x TC versions 1 and 2 don't you think this is a bit over the top? If version 2 of this TC was better optically I would upgrade, but it's not.



  
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Sep 02, 2008 12:33 |  #12

Thanks for the help and suggestions.
I am using 1.4 Mk I and virtually my lens works great with IS on that.
I used 1.4 mk II twice as well and there was no visible difference in quality.

I was looking for the 2x options and i heard that Kenko has some good converters


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Sep 02, 2008 15:07 |  #13

...maybe this will be helpful.

http://www.the-digital-picture.com …ele-Converter-Review.aspx (external link)

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Sep 02, 2008 15:32 |  #14

maxloxton wrote in post #6226362 (external link)
I was looking for the 2x options and i heard that Kenko has some good converters

Do you really want to put a third party TC between a nice lens like that and your camera?



  
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Sep 02, 2008 16:02 |  #15

maxloxton wrote in post #6226362 (external link)
Thanks for the help and suggestions.
I am using 1.4 Mk I and virtually my lens works great with IS on that.
I used 1.4 mk II twice as well and there was no visible difference in quality.

I was looking for the 2x options and i heard that Kenko has some good converters

They do, but there's nothing out there that's significantly (if at all) better than the Canon 2x.


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