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Sep 07, 2008 10:23 |  #1

Hi all,

I have a question, been using my 488R2 BH to use it to shot macro.
The problem is while I adjust the subject and wanted to lock my BG.
once I lock it the aligment is out for abt 1mm something like that...
So I have to release again and adjust again.
Now I have to so call adjust subject by 1mm above once I lock it the at the point I wanted too.....

I dont think I didnt fully lock it...
But since like is fully locked and yet still able to move dowward.
anyonce facing this problem as me too???

And that really pISS me OFF..!!!!


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Sep 07, 2008 10:37 |  #2

Yep, it is a common problem with the 488. With higher quality ballheads, the problem is solved. But you will need to spend alot more than the 488.


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Sep 07, 2008 12:19 |  #3

sometimes when I tighten my ball head it shifts slightly, usually I just "aim high" a tiny bit, then all is well. I have never had the ballhead creep downward, if it's moving AFTER being tight something else may be going on.


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Sep 07, 2008 12:32 |  #4
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I found that out too, so when composing I just factor in that the ballhead will shift a tiny bit.


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Sep 08, 2008 00:43 as a reply to  @ goldboughtrue's post |  #5

Any solution to solve it???
Sometime is really painful and need time to adjust..!!!
by the time adjust is done the subject is gone and walk away....:evil:


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Sep 08, 2008 00:52 |  #6

It's one reason to spend more on a ball head... my Markins M-10 doesn't budge even a fraction once it's set.


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Sep 08, 2008 03:11 |  #7

Jim G wrote in post #6262829 (external link)
It's one reason to spend more on a ball head... my Markins M-10 doesn't budge even a fraction once it's set.

So meaning I have invested an average BH.... :(


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Sep 08, 2008 07:31 |  #8

rubber_duckie wrote in post #6263262 (external link)
So meaning I have invested an average BH.... :(

Unfortunately you are finding the hard way the lesson of mediocre gear. Although the 488 is a popular ballhead, it lacks in many necessary features when it is challenged by more critical applications. as already mentioned you might want to look to some of the better ballheads such as Markins, RRS and others.


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Sep 08, 2008 10:01 as a reply to  @ jhom's post |  #9

But now I am broke....

After checking and mounted and dismounted my camera with BG and w/o BG..
The shift is still there....

And feel is cause by the Lens weight pulling my 450D downward....
due to the weight of the lens.....may be that the reason why is shifted downward abit....

Now I think I should mount my lens with a TRIPOD MOUNT RING instead of mounted on the body.

Anyone feel is may work or not by adding a TRIPOD MOUNT RING and mounted on the tripod???

Please advice..!!!


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Sep 08, 2008 10:49 |  #10

Ball heads are not really meant for precision though. So not sure if the "problem" actually exists. I use my ball head and if you're locking it than you're probably doing it wrong. It is meant to move and give you a good range of motion with a bit of a push but hold the camera relatively at that position when released.


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Sep 08, 2008 12:29 |  #11

rubber_duckie wrote in post #6264666 (external link)
But now I am broke....

After checking and mounted and dismounted my camera with BG and w/o BG..
The shift is still there....

And feel is cause by the Lens weight pulling my 450D downward....
due to the weight of the lens.....may be that the reason why is shifted downward abit....

Now I think I should mount my lens with a TRIPOD MOUNT RING instead of mounted on the body.

Anyone feel is may work or not by adding a TRIPOD MOUNT RING and mounted on the tripod???

Please advice..!!!

While you are testing, you might want to consider the tripod. It can contribute to the droop. Try the shot with legs collaped and then extended at various lengths and angles. The other point of weakness can be the center column, extended vs not extended.


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Sep 08, 2008 14:51 |  #12

rubber_duckie wrote in post #6264666 (external link)
But now I am broke....

After checking and mounted and dismounted my camera with BG and w/o BG..
The shift is still there....

And feel is cause by the Lens weight pulling my 450D downward....
due to the weight of the lens.....may be that the reason why is shifted downward abit....

Looking at your gear list, I don't see any lenses that are heavy enough to cause a good, high-quality ballhead any drooping problems. My guess is that you have a sub-par ballhead.


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Sep 09, 2008 08:44 |  #13

I don't know that 50mm F1.4 is heavy for its size. :-)


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Sep 09, 2008 09:17 |  #14

One word for you OP: Markins. :)


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Sep 09, 2008 09:46 as a reply to  @ ben_r_'s post |  #15

OH sorry....:lol:

I should had stated, actually is my 100mm macro lens having problem while shooting macro & close up and there is a shift downward about 1mm+...

no problem for other lens....

Anyway is the CG of the camera and lens.
So I had confirm is due to the CG is actually at the lens not on the camera body. So I got a 3rd party tripod mount ring and mounted my lens and the problem solve...!!

Anyway thank you guys..!!!!


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