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Sep 07, 2008 20:00 |  #16

+1 for the Drobo. It's a great little intelligent box. I keep all of my original RAW files on it as well as my backup vaults for Aperture.


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Sep 07, 2008 20:05 |  #17

Scout7id wrote in post #6261199 (external link)
+1 for the Drobo. It's a great little intelligent box. I keep all of my original RAW files on it as well as my backup vaults for Aperture.

Drobos burn as well as any other drive. How do you back it up?


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Sep 07, 2008 20:31 |  #18

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Drobos burn as well as any other drive. How do you back it up?

I also use TY DVDs but my Drobo has yet to let me down. I have the maximum four drives in it at the moment. They are all 1TB drives and have had a drive failure. I pulled that drive out and put in the spare that I keep on the shelf. After about 20-30 minutes of the Drobo going through it's self-repair routine, during which I was free to continue to work to and from it, the Drobo was completely back online with all four drives operational. It is truly an amazing piece of backup hardware.

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Sep 07, 2008 20:49 |  #19

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I think it's fairly silly for anyone. If you take photos they're obviously important to you. If the jpgs stay on the server permanently that's good, if you 100% trust the provider. And I bet you have a bunch of data, in a decade you might have hundreds of GB stored there, unless you're paying well for it I imaging they'll dump or compress images at some point.

My approach with DVDs is to assume they'll fail, because you hear stories of DVDs failing every day. This is why I have backups stored on multiple hard drives.

I'm not too worried about it. At most I'd lose 1-2 months of RAW files which is no big deal for me.


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Sep 07, 2008 20:51 |  #20

Scout7id wrote in post #6261351 (external link)
I also use TY DVDs but my Drobo has yet to let me down. I have the maximum four drives in it at the moment. They are all 1TB drives and have had a drive failure. I pulled that drive out and put in the spare that I keep on the shelf. After about 20-30 minutes of the Drobo going through it's self-repair routine, during which I was free to continue to work to and from it, the Drobo was completely back online with all four drives operational. It is truly an amazing piece of backup hardware.

My point is if your house/office burns down the entire unit will be destroyed.

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I'm not too worried about it. At most I'd lose 1-2 months of RAW files which is no big deal for me.

Fair enough. Personally losing one image is unacceptable for me, I don't need a bridezilla or a lawsuit.


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Sep 07, 2008 20:55 |  #21

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Fair enough. Personally losing one image is unacceptable for me, I don't need a bridezilla or a lawsuit.

No kidding. If I were being paid I'd ensure I had as bulletproof a system as possible.


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Sep 07, 2008 21:00 |  #22

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My point is if your house/office burns down the entire unit will be destroyed.

Gotcha. Point well taken. Another Drobo or a more portable external drive or my DVDs offsite might be a worthwhile solution?

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Sep 07, 2008 21:23 |  #23

You want to back up 3TB of data to DVDs? Are you a masochist?

Backing that thing up will be a pain in the butt. I'd probably buy enough 1TB external drives for all your current data. Have scripts that use robocopy to back things up to them. once you go over 1TB i'd suggest you keep try and keep 1TB data silos on the Drobo, so you can easily say "back up this folder" without having to span disks or do anything too clever.


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Sep 07, 2008 21:47 |  #24

I triple back up everything important. Two externals and a dvd for each 4gb I shoot. I've also got a 500gb hard drive that I keep in a fire/waterproof safe. I update it a few times a year and it has everything I've ever done on it, just in case the other two HD"s fail.


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Sep 07, 2008 22:02 |  #25

How hot does it get in those fire proof safes? I'm sure paper would be fine, but if it gets over a few hundred degrees I would think the drive wouldn't survive.

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I triple back up everything important. Two externals and a dvd for each 4gb I shoot. I've also got a 500gb hard drive that I keep in a fire/waterproof safe. I update it a few times a year and it has everything I've ever done on it, just in case the other two HD"s fail.



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Sep 07, 2008 22:13 |  #26

I think mines rated for 1500 degrees F for 15 minutes. Depends on how bad the fire is I guess.


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Sep 07, 2008 22:24 |  #27

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How hot does it get in those fire proof safes? I'm sure paper would be fine, but if it gets over a few hundred degrees I would think the drive wouldn't survive.

God damn you. I had it all figured out until you spoiled it. But at least it'll survive a flood. I'm thinking about it, and it really wouldn't take much to fry it I'm sure.


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Sep 07, 2008 23:12 |  #28

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I think mines rated for 1500 degrees F for 15 minutes. Depends on how bad the fire is I guess.

If you keep it on the floor, you should be ok. The average house fire has a temperature of around 300-400 degrees F or lower at the floor, 1500 at the ceiling. I guess that would make the temp inside the safe less than 200 degrees?

Just make sure it's rated for flooding so the fire hoses don't kill what the fire didn't.



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Sep 07, 2008 23:14 |  #29

I wouldn't trust fire/water proof safes when it's so easy to leave a drive at a friend or relatives house.


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Sep 07, 2008 23:19 |  #30

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