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Sep 10, 2008 15:53 |  #61

So will everything including my heart/brain/lungs/live​r. I'm still not worried ;)


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Sep 10, 2008 16:06 |  #62

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Any solution that relies on optical media will fail....But it's inevitable. Magnetic storage will also fail eventually, but it takes a lot longer..

I had this belief myself, after reading on the topic a number of years back. But more recent research shows that the problem, specifically for magnetic tape, is the failure of the binding agent, so the metal oxide flakes off! And that happens much sooner than had originally been thought to occur. I haven't yet read anything about metal oxide coating on harddrives, which only came into being in the late 1960's, unlike the mag tapes which had pre-existed harddrives.


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Sep 10, 2008 17:13 |  #63

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and the data will soon be brought forward onto whatever super huge media is just around the corner

Don't know about you, but I don't fancy copying all my CD's and DVD's to another type of disk... I have about 550 of them now :p

No, they're not my only backup, but still...


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Sep 10, 2008 17:18 |  #64

I've got 480 in my desktop, 80 in my laptop. All photos are on my desktop, just the new/unedited/priority things on my laptop. Besides that I've got 2x 500 GB LaCie ext. HDD for backup. One "just" backup, one which I'm using as an external HDD when "on the road" with my laptop to have everything with me aswell.


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Sep 10, 2008 17:20 |  #65

Practacility is one of the main issues - I just can't be bothered messing with small storage media. Hard drives have fantastic data density, and it's easy to migrate data to new/larger media when necessary.


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Sep 10, 2008 17:53 |  #66

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and it's easy to migrate data to new/larger media when necessary.

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I share the delusion of ease of transfer. But then I think about tranferring a whole lot of data from a SCSI drive to a SATA drive, and wonder about where I find a PC that can accept the two harddrive controllers to connect to them! So while USB drives exist, my head is in the ground (until the USB port starts to disappear!)


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Sep 10, 2008 17:57 |  #67

Just get a SCSI card.

Fortunately my backup/offsite drives are in USB cases, though I recently purchased a cradle that lets me hot swap SATA 1/2 drives, so i'll do that in future. USB enclosures do provide physical protection though. If SATA seems to be on the way out (in 2015 or later) i'll migrate to whatever is new while I have both available :)


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Sep 10, 2008 17:59 |  #68

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Just get a SCSI card.:)

And what about SCSI-1 vs. SCSI-2 vs. SCSI-3 vs. SCSI-4 drives, ad infinitum?! and parallel vs. serial SCSI, and...
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And there still is the problem of moving data from one drive type to another drive type. I guess if you resign yourself of a PC-to-PC transfer to avoid the issue of multiple harddrive interfaces in the same computer...


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Sep 10, 2008 18:11 |  #69

i still have some CD's that were burnt in 1996/7 that are still readable :)


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Sep 10, 2008 18:34 |  #70

Wilt wrote in post #6282325 (external link)
And what about SCSI-1 vs. SCSI-2 vs. SCSI-3 vs. SCSI-4 drives, ad infinitum?! and parallel vs. serial SCSI, and...
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And there still is the problem of moving data from one drive type to another drive type. I guess if you resign yourself of a PC-to-PC transfer to avoid the issue of multiple harddrive interfaces in the same computer...

I don't know much about antique technologies sorry :p


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Sep 10, 2008 18:40 |  #71

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I don't know much about antique technologies sorry :p

Oops, your head seems to be disappearing into the sand, like mine is! :lol:


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Sep 10, 2008 19:30 |  #72

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Oops, your head seems to be disappearing into the sand, like mine is! :lol:

Like an emu, if I can't see a problem, the problem doesn't exist :)


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Sep 10, 2008 19:35 |  #73

External hard drives...........


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Sep 10, 2008 19:57 |  #74

Sorry for the delay, I missed the post somehow. Actually I am using Super Micro Hot Swap units (which is probably what you meant to say). I am using 3Ware 9550 SATA RAID Controllers and Seagate 750GB and 1TB Drives exclusively. I've tried several other controllers of which some were cheaper but took FOREVER to expand (like 28 days!!!) compared to the 3Ware only taking 4 days to expand a 6TB Array.

I do not have BBU's on them yet I am using a UPS that will shut the system down clean if there is a power failure.

In my experience Burned CD's / DVD are NOT reliable but I agree are better than nothing at the same time I've had the same very disappointing results with Magnetic tape but again better than nothing. This is why I use RAID 5 here at my house, then have everything automatically copied up to Carbonite as a just in case backup. Since I put all of my pics in the same place the backup software will see this and automatically copy them up as soon as I copy them off my memory cards.

I should also mention that I have my complete DVD Library of over 1000 DVD's on my RAID and that connects to a couple of HTPC's that I have have connect to my TV's. Nothing like having your complete DVD collection at your finger tips. I don't back them up on Carbonite as I have the originals if needed.

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sun micro contaners, nice. i've got a 4u case w/ 8 in my raid 5 array, and another 2 for OS. However they're loud as hell since they're being used as DAS for my video and pictures sitting on my desk. :P I actually want to upgrade to 2.5" sata and run port multipliers. laptop drives run waaaaaaaaaaay cooler so the fans are quieter.

what controller are you using? w/ bbu or not? if not, are you running ext3? and are you daisy chaining the drives together?


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Sep 11, 2008 11:41 |  #75

René Damkot wrote in post #6282001 (external link)
Don't know about you, but I don't fancy copying all my CD's and DVD's to another type of disk... I have about 550 of them now :p

No, they're not my only backup, but still...

I recently did it from CD and DVD to Blu-Ray and it was a good exercise in streamlining to the absolute essentials :).

If I lose a lot of stuff it's a good excuse to go out and take more photos.


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