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XTi to 40D.. worthwhile? timing?

 
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Sep 10, 2008 00:45 |  #16

I also went from xti to 40D, I actually bought it a week ago.

it's much better than the xti, i've been testing it and can honestly tell you it's worth the upgrade. I did have a problem with underxposing with my xti and I don't have that problem with my 40D

Also, when I zoom in the pics from my xti and the 40D, I can see the difference on how the 40D focus much better

it would only focus on 2-3 things like posted above me, but with the 40D, I can see how more things are in focus

in other words, it's a great camera for the money



  
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Sep 10, 2008 00:50 |  #17

i agree with the-great-328ic. for me the grip was also alot better and the body just feels more natural in your hands as opposed to the XTI (it was alittle too small for me).


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Sep 10, 2008 01:07 |  #18

medicdude wrote in post #6276990 (external link)
the xti would pick up maybe one or two AF points when i had it on full auto. the 40d picks up like 5-6!

How often do you use it on full auto? I never do that. I hate what the camera chooses to focus on. Not to mention it shoots in JPEG...




  
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Sep 10, 2008 01:11 |  #19

I just made the leap from the XTI to the 40D and very happy I did it :D


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Sep 10, 2008 07:47 |  #20

not often do i use auto af points, but in experimenting i found that out.


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Sep 10, 2008 09:41 |  #21

I also made the switch from a 400d to a 40d and have no regrets, the better AF and faster shutter has made a big difference to the number of keepers I get, I think the colours are better too. I am sure that my 400d was quieter though!!


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Sep 10, 2008 09:52 |  #22

pretty much sold on the 40D.. now i just need to scour the for sale sections to find a good deal.

thanks for everyone's input


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Sep 10, 2008 10:16 |  #23

Personally, I am thinking about going from an Xsi to a 50D. By the way, how does that BMW run?




  
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Sep 11, 2008 06:23 |  #24

I got a 40D a mth ago, to go with my 400D. 40D is a nice improvement.
That was when I needed a 2nd camera body.
If I did not need it then, I would have waited for a next xxD.


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Sep 11, 2008 13:19 |  #25

i did the leap from xti to 40D as well. love the 40D and glad i made the jump. seeing that your even thinking about it, i'm sure you will get the 40D but the 50D should be tempting you. lot of good deals on used 40D out there and even new.




  
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Sep 11, 2008 13:23 |  #26

do it, and do it quick.=D


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Sep 11, 2008 22:11 |  #27

the shutter is definitely louder and more robust sounding on the 40d. unless its in live view mode 2! silent!


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Sep 11, 2008 22:26 |  #28

I too am debating the purchase of a 40D as an upgrade to my XTi. I know that overall picture quality may not be much more impressive but the feel and handling of a 40D really seems like a huge upgrade (at least when I played with it in the store).


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Sep 12, 2008 01:43 |  #29

got the xti nov 2006 and the 40d dec 2007

made the upgrade and i don't regret it. keeping the xti as a backup for now.

here are the differences i noticed

40D is much punchier, it responds very fast to the user. The viewfinder blackout also seemed shorter
6.5 fps is really nice, but not essential if you're not shooting sports, etc

viewfinder: this was a HUGE, noticeable difference. The VF in the 40D is noticeably bigger and brighter, and also includes ISO, which i found very nice in practice. The AF points also light up brighter, and the text inside the VF is also brighter and larger. XTi's VF looks like tunnel vision in comparison.

Handling: the second wheel on the back of the body makes exposure compensation changes pretty easy. They weren't hard on the XTi, but settings changes seem a bit more intuitive and easy to reach on the 40D.

Larger LCD: this isn's that huge a deal for me. I think the resolution looked best on the XTi's 2.5" screen...on the 40D's 3" screen the pixelation is more noticeable.

Ergonomics: The 40D wins hands down, at least for me. I love its large, comfortable grip, especially with large lenses mounted. You should try it out before you buy it, because ergonomics is a pretty personal issue.

Build: the 40D also wins this, feeling very solid with its magnesium alloy build. The XTi feels a bit more toy-like with its plastic build. That said, I'm sure I could get on fine with the XTi, since I don't abuse my equipment or work in harsh environments. The 40D just feels more solid and rugged.

You can display shooting settings on the back LCD of the 40D, but I prefer to keep that LCD off unless reviewing the pics I took. The top LCD is good for displaying settings, and probably saves battery life. You can also set the ISO to H, which is equivalent to ISO3200. These shots are usable as long as you clean them up with some noise reduction, expose them properly, and size them down a bit.

Here is an ISO3200 shot I took with a little ACR noise reduction

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Biggest point of interest for me was the better ISO performance. I'd rate it at about one stop improvement (i.e. ISO 1600 on the 40D looks like ISO 800 on the XTi)

Live view is useful for me for its very quiet shutter. It is also nice for focus-critical situations...you can fine tune your focus using the large LCD screen and zooming in to 10x. I use live view for less than 1% of my shots though, so it isn't that useful to me.

RAWs are shot in 14 bit as opposed to the XTI's 12 bit RAWs...so this means larger files (I'd say average XTI RAW was 10mb for me, and average 40D RAW was 14mb). I wouldn't say the color difference is that noticeable.

Autofocus on the 40D seems noticeably better, especially in AI servo mode

The dial has 3 positions for custom settings. I don't use these, but I'm sure someone has as use for them.

My XTi's LCD had a little bit of a weird warm cast to its LCD. Not sure if anyone else noticed the difference in switching from 400D to 40D. Pictures seem warm on the LCD on the XTi, but turn out to be a bit cooler than displayed when viewed on the computer.

Exposure seems more accurate on the 40D. I noticed a bit of underexposure on my XTi, but less so on my 40D.

Other small nice things? Flash sync of 1/250 as opposed to 1/200, and included PC sync port on the side, which the XTi doesn't have. Dedicated AF on button. I switched up my style of shooting after getting the 40D...normally I'd have half press do autofocus and exposure, but now I have half press of the shutter lock exposure, and a press of the AF on button do autofocus. The rebel can be set up the same way, actually.

A "My menu" tab is included in the menu, allowing you to put your most used menu items in one place. Makes it easier than having to scroll through the various tabs to get to your most used things.

40D has true spot metering, while the XTi only has partial metering. Good for tricky lighting situations. A circle is drawn in the VF, delineating the boundary of the spot meter.

Another thing that the 40D has: the ability to change out focusing screens. You can add one that has a grid drawn on it, or you can get the precision matte one. I got the precision matte one recently, and it displays the actual DOF (instead of artificially increasing it, like the standard focusing screens do). This is useful for manual focusing fast prime lenses.

In use, was it worth the upgrade? Yes! I wish I had started out on a xxD body, but 20/20 hindsight, right?

Hope that helped

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Sep 12, 2008 01:48 |  #30

^^ your last point was a big surprise for me when I moved from my XTI to the 40D. It blew me away how quite the shutter was, compared to the loud mechanical sounding shutter of the XTI


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