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Sep 15, 2008 05:48 |  #16

tbrasington wrote in post #6308990 (external link)
Probably $579 and $999 if it follows the same rules as our other electrical equipment goes!
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They should settle down to the same price as the optically identical Nikon ZF versions. That's $517 and $1033 respectively.


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Sep 15, 2008 05:49 |  #17

He's wrong in most cases. The new stuff has been easily as optically good as the C/Y mount lenses, and most of them have been shown to be a bit better. Not that the C/Y lenses aren't spectacular (you can have my 85 Sonnar when you either kill me or I buy the ZE 85 Planar.)

Optically the same or better plus you get EXIF info and avoid stop down metering? I'll take it.


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Sep 15, 2008 05:50 |  #18

Hard to get real excited about manual focus lenses selling for $820 and $1415 respectively. I'm sure that to some folks it might be justified...but not this one.;)


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Sep 15, 2008 05:52 |  #19

They won't sell for the exchange rate...look at the ZF mount...same price in $ as it is in Euro. :) And, considering the 85 Planar is nearly the optical equal of the 85L, with a much nicer build quality, if you don't need AF, it's a steal for almost half the price.

The 50 f/1.4 is vastly optically superior to Canon's own 50 f/1.4, and probably even a bit better than the 50L, for only a couple hundred more than the Canon 50 f/1.4.


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Sep 15, 2008 05:57 |  #20

Jman13 wrote in post #6309036 (external link)
They won't sell for the exchange rate...look at the ZF mount...same price in $ as it is in Euro. :) And, considering the 85 Planar is nearly the optical equal of the 85L, with a much nicer build quality, if you don't need AF, it's a steal for almost half the price.

The 50 f/1.4 is vastly optically superior to Canon's own 50 f/1.4, and probably even a bit better than the 50L, for only a couple hundred more than the Canon 50 f/1.4.

you should be a Zeiss salesperson :D

Are you saying the 85L is slightly optically better than the 85/1.4 planar?

Also, are you saying that the zeiss 50/1.4 is better than the sigma 50/1.4? Hopefully dpreview can fit in a review, since they just did some 50mm reviews.


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Sep 15, 2008 05:58 |  #21

If they were selling for $85 and $145...I might get excited...The difference in IQ doesn't justify that kind of price to most people.


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Sep 15, 2008 05:58 |  #22

Jman13 wrote in post #6309027 (external link)
He's wrong in most cases. The new stuff has been easily as optically good as the C/Y mount lenses, and most of them have been shown to be a bit better. Not that the C/Y lenses aren't spectacular (you can have my 85 Sonnar when you either kill me or I buy the ZE 85 Planar.)

Optically the same or better plus you get EXIF info and avoid stop down metering? I'll take it.

btw do you have links to these c/y vs new mount comparisons?


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Sep 15, 2008 06:00 |  #23

The used Contax Zeiss 21mm Distagon can go for up to US$3,000. Hopefully, the new version will drive down prices.

When I bought my 50mm 1.4 ZS here in Tokyo, the dollar was relatively strong against the yen, and the price here was already about US$100 than the B&H price, so it cost me about US$475 if I recall, not that much more than the Canon 1.4.

It will be interesting to see if the ZE mounts demand a higher premium than the other mounts.

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^^ thanks...i was pretty sure the conversion rate was 1:1

Upon telling my friend about ZE lenses, he came back with this reply:

"Their quality are not as good as the older Zeiss lenses in C/Y mounts.

Just get Contax C/Y lenses and use adaptors unless you really crave for the electronics in the ZE lenses."

He kinda collects MF lenses, so I'm trusting he knows his stuff

My Zeiss ZS lenses are incredibly well built, so any difference would be negligible at best. Optically, I believe my 25mm ZS is slightly better than the CZ version.

That said, if the CZ 21mm drops markedly in price, then that's the one I'll probably go for in the future, much distant future, should I go for anything wider then my current 25mm. Also, the CZ 45mm f2.8 Tessar seems to be a fun lens, so I might get that one day…


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Sep 15, 2008 06:02 |  #24

Jman13 wrote in post #6309036 (external link)
The 50 f/1.4 is vastly optically superior to Canon's own 50 f/1.4, and probably even a bit better than the 50L, for only a couple hundred more than the Canon 50 f/1.4.

Not convincing on PZ test (ZF mount): http://www.photozone.d​e …--lab-test-report?start=1 (external link)

Chromatic Aberrations (CAs)

Chromatic aberrations (color shadows at harsh contrast transitions) are still moderate in absolute terms but a little disappointing for a fix-focal lens.

Distortions

The Zeiss ZF 50mm f/1.4 produces a slight degree (0.6%) of barrel distortions. Nonetheless it is worth to mention that this is comparatively high when looking at competing lenses out there.


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Sep 15, 2008 06:05 |  #25

Failed to electrify KR too: http://www.kenrockwell​.com/zeiss/zf50.htm (external link)


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Sep 15, 2008 06:06 |  #26

Sfordphoto wrote in post #6309056 (external link)
btw do you have links to these c/y vs new mount comparisons?

Most of my info comes from people who have owned both over at the fredmiranda.com Alternative Gear forums.

The 50 Planar is the one situation where the C/Y might be superior to the new lens, so I might have misspoken on that one (I know my Planar 50 f/1.7 C/Y is WAY better than the Canon 50 f/1.4.) I know that the 85 Planar is much improved, as is the 25 Distagon (which isn't available for ZE yet, but I would be it's coming in the next year or so), the 18 Distagon, the 28 f/2, and the 100 f/2 macro are all supposed to be spectacular.


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Sep 15, 2008 06:10 |  #27

Woolburr wrote in post #6309054 (external link)
If they were selling for $85 and $145...I might get excited...The difference in IQ doesn't justify that kind of price to most people.

Funny, I feel the same way about L lenses.


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Sep 15, 2008 06:15 |  #28

Actually, looking at the review of the ZF vs. C/Y on slrlensreview.com, the ZF has better resolution than the C/Y mount. The other factors, I didn't look at, as I'm getting ready to leave for work.

The 50 f/1.7 vs. Canon 50 f/1.4 is first hand knowledge, as I own both.


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Sep 15, 2008 06:16 |  #29

^^ thanks


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Sep 15, 2008 06:17 |  #30

sjones wrote in post #6309096 (external link)
Funny, I feel the same way about L lenses.

That is why I have a 50 f/1.4 and an 85 f/1.8....I couldn't get excited about the L versions.


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