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Can a one light set up/umbrella proudce these photos? help appreciated!

 
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Sep 15, 2008 11:32 |  #1

I just went out and bought my first umbrella!, a silver 45" Photoflex.
This is my gear, I have a Rebel XTi, a 430EX flash, two lights @ 250watts(eca, 3200K).

I'm wondering if I can replicate these type of shots. The photo's are of UFC fighters, I don't want to copy and paste because I do not own the images, here is the link,

http://www.ufc.com …fm?fa=fighter.a​llfighters (external link)

If you click on any fighter you will see the type of pic I want to replicate. It seems to me that they are using a one light set up or umbrella due to the shadows I am seeing on half of most of the pics. I will be using a black velvet background.

Any help is appreciated!

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Sep 15, 2008 11:39 |  #2

It looks like at least 2, maybe 3, lights in most of them.




  
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Most of the ones I clicked on look like 2 light setups. The light on their side not facing the camera is just placed further back and not as powerful. You can see some illumination there for sure.


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Sep 15, 2008 11:47 as a reply to  @ 2112's post |  #4

I didn't mention this in my original post, but do you think they may be using one light and a reflector on the other side, or do you feel two light minimum on these? Just trying to figure out the configuration I need, I only have one umbrella so I'm kind of stuck.


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Sep 15, 2008 12:02 |  #5

There's no reason why you can't shoot with just one light. I saw a couple there which seemed like only one light was being used. If you have a reflector also, that'll be even better.


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Sep 15, 2008 14:31 |  #6

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Sep 15, 2008 17:20 |  #7

I'd use the flash high in your umbrella, then your two 'hot lights' could create the rim light.




  
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Sep 15, 2008 17:59 |  #8

You can always use mirror to bounce the light (for the rim light). But you have to be careful about the placement and size of the mirror(s).




  
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Sep 16, 2008 01:51 as a reply to  @ tjongkristian's post |  #9

I went out with my one light and my umbrella, before you C&C, I do understand that half of one of the fighters body is out of the pic, the first pic, the pose needs adjusting, the kid, he just was happy so I took it. I wanted more to showcase that I was able to do what I was looking for, one light pointed into an umbrella, left of the camera, black velvet backdrop.
What are your thoughts on the lighting? I know I need work, but this is at least ok to look at...

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The other thing, I had no reflector, I can see how I need some more light to show on the fighter in #1, his hair is blending into the background too much.

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Sep 16, 2008 07:55 |  #10

I think the lighting is fine for what you are trying to achieve.




  
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Sep 16, 2008 08:07 |  #11

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3 lights or 2 + reflector
one right (whitebox) one left smaller reflector to fill shadows and one back and left as 'hair light' to give them that bright outline\edge light -or whatever you want to call it.

the firstimage of the guy in boxing gloves at this link:
http://www.ufc.com/Hou​stonAlexander (external link)

is what i'm talking about.


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Sep 16, 2008 08:27 |  #12

I think the lighting in #2 is really good. The cropping obviously miss-fired, but the lighting was a hit. If you don't have a reflector, put them near a light colored wall opposite the flash.


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Sep 16, 2008 13:48 |  #13

thanks so much for helping me out-it's appreciated

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