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Dec 11, 2008 20:55 |  #196

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Technically good isn't good enough to be noticed anymore.

Especially not in sports. There's tons of guys out there covering these events, and with events as predictable and repetitive as sports (not in terms of outcome but in the nature of reoccurring incidents and moments of interest) you really have to be different to stand out. It's not enough anymore to just cover the event if you want to rise above the crowd.




  
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Dec 12, 2008 01:06 as a reply to  @ post 6323460 |  #197

I agree, Mark ... but I'll go even further and say not only is it not about technically excellent images (although you damn well better have that part down), but it is not about "art" either ... much as that's very important, too, but it really comes down to who you know, not what you know! I do damn well for a part time photography business at about $40K/year and it is all about who I know. I am only successful to the extent I network ... which is fulltime and continuous. Tonight I shot a concert with Kate & Kasey, Danielle Peck and Keith Anderson at the casino (all country stars in case you never heard of them.) In between everything else I did, I connected with the ranch manager at the Alisal Guest Ranch in Buellton which has some of the most beautiful landscapes in the valley that I will now be able to shoot. I met the head of the Lompoc Photographers' Club who wants me to speak about concert photography. And I ran into the head of the youth baseball league who is looking for a sports 'tog ... a connection that I will try to pass along to my collaborator Marcie Kligman. This is what I do all the time. So the 1DMk IV will be just another excellent tool, but the real key to success is networking!


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Dec 12, 2008 01:12 |  #198

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Feb 09 would be good, I'm 40 in Feb and my other half has promised that she'll get a pro body for me, I told her I would like a camera as well. :D

Hilarious message!

And....ME TOO!!! 40 in Feb, that is...I'm already buying tissues in bulk to catch my tears of sadness as I say farewell to my 30s.

But as to getting a pro body (on the wife, or in my camera bag) that'll have to wait until I'm at least 100!!!
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Dec 12, 2008 21:18 as a reply to  @ post 6323460 |  #199

Ok, I would like two full servings of Crow please!

So after ranting I would never need nor want to shoot at crazy high ISO, tonight I was to shoot indoor scenes from a period house (1874 to be exact) of christmas life. It was an open house, so I couldn't use a tripod. So while swallowing pride big time, I cranked it up to H2... and prayed for the best. Needless to say I will be arranging for a re-shoot when I can use a tripod.

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Dec 15, 2008 12:13 as a reply to  @ post 6323460 |  #200

Are we getting an update in Jan?

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Dec 15, 2008 12:47 as a reply to  @ post 6323460 |  #201

interesting

google translation of excerpt:
"The speculation part of the professional models, new land IV's. On 22 February 2007 was the Canon EOS 1D Mark III. Earlier, the modellcyklerna for professional cameras have been 3 years. Ingvar reveals that we can expect shorter cycles to come.

Then he smiles and says to me soon, very soon will be invited to the next product launch."


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Dec 15, 2008 12:58 as a reply to  @ post 6323460 |  #202

i really hope so.


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Dec 18, 2008 09:08 |  #203

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It is possible, and I think that possibility may be a barrier to Canon including such things in a 1D (which is built for the pros and not the GWC's).

Mind you, as was said before, it would be difficult to police this issue from an organsisers point of view, how many people in the stands take phones in to stadia, photograph the game and have the ability to send them as a picture SMS?! That breaches licensing rules on 2 counts, but everyone does it.

James.

Not to dredge up "the past" with this, but a barrier to the 1D having video capability is listed here...

European Tour Golf Media Guidelines wrote:
Accredited Photographers may only originate still photographic pictures of the Event for use on or in print and online media (such media having been disclosed at the time of application) and provided that: (i) They appear as still images (and not as moving images or in any way that could be deemed to emulate broadcast) and cannot be used to support a so-called on-line tournament-tracking report, audio or text based commentary service

OR

Football DataCo Agreement wrote:
1.39 “Sequence of Stills” means a sequence of still images which comprises not less than three (3) still images in any consecutive period of 60 seconds and any other method that uses still images in a manner that imitates or suggests moving images of Matches or Players

... and then further on...

8.2 Photographs shall not be used or Published as Sequences of Stills save as set out in Appendix B below.

...finally...

APPENDIX B
SEQUENCED STILL IMAGES
Sequences of Stills may be used and Published only on the following basis:
1.1 During the applicable Match:
No Sequences of Stills may be used or Published; and

1.2 Following the conclusion of the applicable Match until 12 midnight immediately following the applicable Match (“1st Permitted Period”): Not more than ten (10) Sequences of Stills of a Match (each comprising not more than 6 still images in any consecutive period of 60 seconds with an interval of not less than 10 seconds between each still image) may be used or Published in any consecutive period of two hours; and

1.3 Following the 1st Permitted Period until seven (7) days after the applicable Match: One or more Sequences of Stills (each comprising not more than 6 still images in any consecutive period of 60 seconds with an interval of not less than 10 seconds
between each still image) may be used or Published; and

1.4 Seven (7) days after the applicable Match: One or more Sequences of Stills may be used or Published. Such Sequences of Stills may consist of more than six (6) images.

These are the only sets of guidelines I could find on my laptop today as I'm on a day without much to do (and am watching Airport on TV). Certainly it would explain perhaps why the D3x doesnt have video capability.

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Dec 24, 2008 08:25 |  #204

DwightMcCann wrote in post #6808658 (external link)
Whoa, exactly my thought! I could use 26MP in my 1DsMIII but 16MP would be perfect for my 1DMIIIs. I just hope they keep that video stuff out of it and use the capacity for improving the AF.

Why do people assume that there's some "capacity" for whatever improvement they want that can be switched around to suit their needs? Can you post a detailed org chart of Canon's R&D that shows where this capacity is and how they could move it from video to AF without harming, for example, their *gigantic* P&S operations?

jamesb84 wrote in post #6856951 (external link)
And could quite possibly bring about complications for the pros that use them...

I know in order for me to photograph a number of sports (premier league football for one) I am not allowed to post "images taken in quick succession, or stitched together to form any sort of moving image" nor am i allowed to shoot "moving pictures or video with a photographic license". With the HD video capability, that takes the element of control away from the licensing authorities and I cannot imagine them allowing that for too long.

Not sure I understand this. So the device has the capability to do something which your license forbids? So you don't do it. If you do, your license is taken away. Where's the problem?




  
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Dec 24, 2008 09:32 |  #205

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Why do people assume that there's some "capacity" for whatever improvement they want that can be switched around to suit their needs? Can you post a detailed org chart of Canon's R&D that shows where this capacity is and how they could move it from video to AF without harming, for example, their *gigantic* P&S operations?

I have a feeling that no one else's perspective on this is meaningful to you. Do you have such a chart to demonstrate that they have what must, in your mind, amount to infinite capacity? If the capacity is not infinite, then there is always a need to assign priorities. And if nothing else, the logic for video takes space on a chip that could be much better used for improved still processing. :-)


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Dec 24, 2008 10:04 as a reply to  @ post 6323460 |  #206

I will really hope they put video on it but I guess I understand if they don't...


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Dec 24, 2008 12:15 |  #207

DwightMcCann wrote in post #6938516 (external link)
I have a feeling that no one else's perspective on this is meaningful to you. Do you have such a chart to demonstrate that they have what must, in your mind, amount to infinite capacity? If the capacity is not infinite, then there is always a need to assign priorities. And if nothing else, the logic for video takes space on a chip that could be much better used for improved still processing. :-)

Meaningful to me? Well, I suppose it is in that I have commented on it; but I think you are really saying that simply because I disagreed with you about whether or not video is desirable.

I take issue with the idea that they could take a certain amount of resources from the video implementation and apply them fully to the AF implementation, which is not how large organizations work. In this case, since the vast majority of the video functionality already exists for liveview, it seems a pretty safe bet to me to say that a redesigned AF system would be a far larger task than video capture.

Overall, I suspect those that find video to be a deal-breaker when considering a DSLR purchase better get used to the idea that, in a couple of years, pretty much every model from every manufacturer will have it. After all, it's a feature that will sell cameras and will make money, which is the *sole* reason corporations exist.




  
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Dec 28, 2008 07:38 |  #208

jouster wrote in post #6938202 (external link)
Not sure I understand this. So the device has the capability to do something which your license forbids? So you don't do it. If you do, your license is taken away. Where's the problem?

Right, but just because you "promise not to do it" doesnt mean that any licensing authority will actually believe you. Notice how neither the Nikon D3 or D3x has video?!

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Jan 02, 2009 15:57 as a reply to  @ post 6323460 |  #209

god i am so sick of looking at this page! he he


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Jan 05, 2009 18:15 as a reply to  @ jerrythesnake's post |  #210

Just noted this in the 1DS thread, but same applies here: would like to see the 1/500 sync speed back.




  
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