Problems calibrating Laptop with Spyder2

Guys I am going Crazy and I hope you can help me out. Here is my situation


1. Laptop Macbook 13 inch
2. Running windows Vista Ultimate (yea I like Mac Hardware but a windows user)
3. Spyder2Express
4. Photoshop CS3


5. I have calibrated my Monitor with Spyder2Express (gamma 2.2 and 6500k). I noticed a red cast on my monitor by I've read it is "normal" since the profile that ships with it is too "cool". The profile was assigned as default profile in "Color Management" of windows vista

6. Doesn't matter if the profile is loaded with ProfileChooser or not

7. Photoshop IS showing the correct profile as "Monitor RGB" profile in color settings

8. Photoshop working space is Adobe RGB 1998 (North America Prepress 2)

I open a RAW image on my laptop in Adobe RGB and the colors are VERY saturated specially reds and greens Red always look like they are blown out although the histogram is showing otherwise. If I set the "Profile Setup" to "Monitor RBG" and press CTRL + Y colors are much more "natural"/"Less Saturated"

I tried deleting all custom ICC profiles so that in Photoshop the Monitor RGB is sRGB and the problem is gone

I also tried to look at this http://www.normankoren​.com/monitor_test_txt2​2.png and I see a lot of lines in the middle of the chart, i don't know if it is what I am supposed to see or not.

Thank you for your help and ideas

akhater wrote in post #6350276
Here is my situation

Sounds like you've set everything up right...

akhater wrote in post #6350276
I open a RAW image on my laptop in Adobe RGB and the colors are VERY saturated specially reds and greens Red always look like they are blown out although the histogram is showing otherwise. If I set the "Profile Setup" to "Monitor RBG" and press CTRL + Y colors are much more "natural"/"Less Saturated"

Compared to? An Adobe RGB image in a non CM application should look "less vivid". However, this case might be a bad monitor profile, all problems taken into account.

akhater wrote in post #6350276
I tried deleting all custom ICC profiles so that in Photoshop the Monitor RGB is sRGB and the problem is gone

Sounds like your monitor profile is bad then.

This might help as well: Click.

akhater wrote in post #6350276
I also tried to look at this http://www.normankoren​.com/monitor_test_txt2​2.png and I see a lot of lines in the middle of the chart, i don't know if it is what I am supposed to see or not.

I see "small solid gray bar; lotsa lines; solid gray; lotsa lines; small solid gray bar" from left to right.


Edit: I moved this to a seperate thread. You might get more answers that way...

René Damkot wrote in post #6351496
Sounds like you've set everything up right...

Compared to? An Adobe RGB image in a non CM application should look "less vivid". However, this case might be a bad monitor profile, all problems taken into account.

Compared to what is "normal", I mean always used to push my picture saturation in PS and/or ACR now I have to decrease it by at least ~20

I'm reading it thanks

I was wondering because they say it should be a smooth gray

Thanks for that too, I didn't want to start a new thread not to "polute" the forums

edit: One more thing I tried calibrating it using gamma 2.2 and native white-point instead of 6500K well now the overall screen has more of a yellowish cast than a red one but the saturation problem still remains.

edit II: Assuming I am looking at a picture in FF 3 (with color management enabled) and I just copy this picture and paste it into a new image in Photoshop blue becomes purple and reds are over-saturated

Here is one of my pictures that I've fixed to look ok in photoshop (greens were way too saturated)

In FF (color management enabled) and PS it looks the same in IE it looks way too desaturated. I don't know if they look the same for you or even slightly different here they look WAY different Here is the link to the pic

Convert to sRGB, since IE is not color managed. They should then look the same or very close (depends on the colors in the shot) in both FF and IE.

Thanks bohdank but I am converting to sRGB before saving for web usage

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