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Sep 22, 2008 06:00 |  #1

Great African Photo Safari III 2009

GAPS III 2009 - possibly one space now available.

Will be contacting people who applied over this weekend.

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Over the last couple of years we've had two groups of six POTN members head out to Africa for a unique opportunity to shoot in some of Southern Africa's premier wildlife destinations. Both GAPS I and GAPS II filled very quickly and I am now starting to think about GAPS III.

The trips are unique because costs are shared to maximise value and experiences, locations are carefully hand-picked rather than taking the usual tourist routes, we focus on photography so no need to worry about the very different needs and interests of non-photographers, we drive our own hired 4x4 off-road vehicles from location to location giving freedom, control and security in remote locations, we don't shelter from 'the real Africa' and hide you behind fences in luxury AC chalets, we mix and engage, and we work together, carrying our own baggage being responsible for each other and mucking in with group chores to make the trips work.

I've thought hard about what I loved about both previous GAPS and what I would change. I have built this latest trip around the few, simple answers I came up with to create what I consider to be our best route and opportunity for wildlife photography yet!

First and foremost I love finding and watching animals and birds, and especially those that make me gasp in awe and smile in the joy of just being close to them. I like sitting in hides watching the action at waterholes. I love Elephant. I love Rhino. I love the big cats: Cheetah, Leopard, Lion. I love seeing the big herds. I love meal-times around a fire after a great day of spotting and shooting. I love the wilderness for sure ... but at my age I also love at least some comforts: a good bed, security, a hot shower, a laundry service and ... decent coffee every morning!

So the challenge is how do you get the best blend of wildlife diversity and increase the opportunities of seeing the glamour species, whilst avoiding the crowds ... but without paying the inflated prices of the private safari venues? When you work that out then you need to figure out how to also mix adventure, because that is why we go too, with a few home comforts? Well, I think I've come up with the answer ... and it involves super-careful selection of wildlife locations and an astute blend of accommodation to balance value and comfort over the period.

So, where are we going in 2009?

Well, I kinda surprised myself this year because I'd been working on the assumption that we'd go back to Namibia for the core of the trip. But when I applied my criteria, especially value, diversity and maximising access to the glamour species, it soon became clear that we'd be returning to South Africa.

So this time we're heading over to the opposite side of the country and so covering primarily the North-East and South-East with our start and end point in Johanesberg! Based on how my routing and timings pan out we may also venture into Southern Mozambique or Swaziland.

What are the key locations?

See here for latest routing: click (external link)

There is a lot to pack in but I want to take more time to breath the air and smell the flowers this time. The last two trips have involved a lot of travel, both 5000 KM's plus, and I want to spend less time behind the wheel and more time behind the shutter and relaxing! The route will continue to evolve as I complete the necessary research and know the availability at different locations.

Dates and Costs?

At the moment I am looking at End August into September 2009, same as previous years, but this may shift depending on availability, school-holidays in South Africa and chosen participants. Again, I am looking at 21 days in Africa.

Costs will be in the region of £1800 per person, plus flights, same as this year. Any surplus at the end of the trip will be shared equally. Payment will be in three instalments and once the final payment is made all you need think about is your own personal expenditure, like souvenirs, snacks, etc. All accommodation, vehicle hire, entry fees and group activities, group meals, fuel, etc is paid for.

Ok, how do I sign up?

As with previous years I will select a group of people who I feel will make for a compatible team. Previously I have taken five others, making it three per vehicle. This year I may reduce it to four and one vehicle, stick with six, or increase to eight. Four or eight helps a lot with reducing costs, six helps with the photography side. I'll think about it more. People who were interested last year but who didn't get a place should consider applying for next year.

Clearly, heading to Africa with a bunch of strangers is a risk and so personality types and group composition are the most important aspects of the whole trip in my opinion. At this very early stage I am just looking for initial interest. Once things firm up a little more then we will look at criteria for selection, same as last time, because that is when we know what the exact challenges will involve. Remember, any selection criteria are to ensure group compatibility and ease of organisation, nothing else.

Couples and individuals are welcome, but individuals need to be prepared to share rooms for much of the trip. Couples should be 'team-players' rather than just sticking together and doing their own thing!

If they are willing then feel free to chat to any of the previous safari goers about their experiences, or drop me a PM if you you want specific details.

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Sep 22, 2008 06:29 |  #2

This looks very attractive Dave. I'd have to think a bit more about budget (:-() and free days available, but I definitely want to go back to Africa...


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Sep 22, 2008 06:50 |  #3

Sounds great Dave. I would love to go but will opt out this time to let other join and because I need to save more money before I can go on another africa trip :lol:

Just curios. You write you may take just four and one vehicle. Do you mean 5 in one vehicle or do you mean you + 3 = 4 in a vehicle ?


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Sep 22, 2008 07:01 |  #4

tommykjensen wrote in post #6356709 (external link)
Just curios. You write you may take just four and one vehicle. Do you mean 5 in one vehicle or do you mean you + 3 = 4 in a vehicle ?

Me plus three others, which would work well for photography and accommodation and costs, but offers less flexibility and no back-up vehicle of course. Wouldn't work with 5 in one vehicle ;) Will likely go with same set up as last two years, i.e. three per vehicle, as only downside is the cost of vehicle hire being shared by less people.


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Sep 22, 2008 07:49 |  #5

Ok thats what I thought. But hey we were able to fit all six into one bakkie :lol: not very comfortable for anybody one the backseat though :lol:

Ohh and you can of course still use my wiki for the iteniary etc.


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Sep 22, 2008 15:32 |  #6

Cheers, will probably do that ...

It is worth mentioning that the stop-overs between parks are being carefully planned too and I have already researched some very nice ones. For example, one overnight will be close to 'the Owl House' at Neu Bethesda ... a fascinating place to spend a few hours -superb for anyone interested in 'outsider art' and presents some great photo opportu nities. Very unlikely we'll waste time in JHB at either end of the trip.


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Sep 22, 2008 15:34 |  #7

Excellent photos!




  
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Sep 22, 2008 16:04 |  #8

poppie guy wrote in post #6359500 (external link)
Excellent photos!

yep, a few of those I was around for..

Here's a couple from me.

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Sep 23, 2008 00:35 |  #9

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yep, a few of those I was around for..

Here's a couple from me.
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This one is beautiful! Did you see some action?


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Sep 23, 2008 08:53 |  #10

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This one is beautiful! Did you see some action?

action?.. Not really. But there were two groups and I seemed to be in the wrong one the 'bakkie 1' did see Lions with kill, dead elephants, and a couple of exciting things. I was very content with what I did see though.. But, if I go on a second trip I will have to come up with a new wish list. ;)


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action?.. Not really. But there were two groups and I seemed to be in the wrong one the 'bakkie 1' did see Lions with kill, dead elephants, and a couple of exciting things. I was very content with what I did see though.. But, if I go on a second trip I will have to come up with a new wish list. ;)

Well, seing your shot, I thought that if the Impala dared to come a few meters closer, there might have been some fun!

I have to go back to see more action. We saw Leopard eating, but no hunt or anything really gruesome :lol:


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Sep 25, 2008 08:15 |  #12

Strange only two people have made serious contact so far this year but last year there was well into double figures within 3-4 days. I guess either the proposed route or the price are putting people off.

There is only so far I am prepared to compromise on vehicles, accommodation, food, park visits ... which together form the main costs. I'm also not prepared to do a cheap 'typical tourist in and out' style trip.

So, if you are interested in what I propose then let me know. Alternatively, if we have no interest, I will drop the POTN Africa trips and just organise my own trip as I have always done previously, or see if there is interest on another forum.

We need either 3 or 5 serious people who are committed to the kind of trip being organised and who are suitable/compatible to form a team. We can save some costs on 4x4 hire as for the proposed trip we don't need low gear vehicles, just standard 4x4, and we can definitely save on food costs compared to this year. But realistically this kind of trip is still gonna be around the £1800 mark per person ($3600 US) plus air-fair, though JHB is cheaper and easy to fly to than either Windhoek or Cape Town, where we have been before. You realistically need to budget £2500 per person.

If people are interested but prefer a different route then let me know and I'll consider it. As long as there is wildlife and good coffee then I am easy ;-)a

Over to you guys ...


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Sep 25, 2008 20:16 |  #13

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Strange only two people have made serious contact so far this year but last year there was well into double figures within 3-4 days. I guess either the proposed route or the price are putting people off.

There is only so far I am prepared to compromise on vehicles, accommodation, food, park visits ... which together form the main costs. I'm also not prepared to do a cheap 'typical tourist in and out' style trip.

So, if you are interested in what I propose then let me know. Alternatively, if we have no interest, I will drop the POTN Africa trips and just organise my own trip as I have always done previously, or see if there is interest on another forum.

We need either 3 or 5 serious people who are committed to the kind of trip being organised and who are suitable/compatible to form a team. We can save some costs on 4x4 hire as for the proposed trip we don't need low gear vehicles, just standard 4x4, and we can definitely save on food costs compared to this year. But realistically this kind of trip is still gonna be around the £1800 mark per person ($3600 US) plus air-fair, though JHB is cheaper and easy to fly to than either Windhoek or Cape Town, where we have been before. You realistically need to budget £2500 per person.

If people are interested but prefer a different route then let me know and I'll consider it. As long as there is wildlife and good coffee then I am easy ;-)a

Over to you guys ...

give it a little bit of time Dave. Unfortunately the economy is in a bit of a slump at present which is probably having an effect on folks ability to plan a trip of this magnitude. Doesn't mean it won't happen but, perhaps a slight tweaking in travel arrangments could be presented as an option?... (just a thought... )

I can attest that it was worth every penny and then some when i went the year before last. And it was an incredible feat for me, took a lot of discipline and work than I had attempted before. I'll even admit my financial mistakes...

1. The Computtrekker camera bag. Uncomfortable to travel with very unnecessary once I arrived and it's still sitting in my closet collecting dust. I haven't used it once since I returned But I had myself convinced that I needed it for the traveling time.

2. The two hundred bucks I spent on anti-milaria meds when I didn't get one bug bite. But, in all fairness I'd probably get them again for a second trip... (just because you're supposed to).

3. and the teleconverter I bought. 400mm was plenty long enough for anything I was shooting and if I wanted to shoot something that required the teleconverter the MF made it impossible.

But, that had nothing to do with Dave's organizational skills, or his ability to plan the trip and make the financial arrangments. He is very, very organized can be trusted completely. and if you have a good sense of humor is a lot of fun to be around...

you will get a little annoyed at his keeper ratio though... The man never pushes the shutter unless it's perfect. :rolleyes:;)

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Sep 26, 2008 01:15 |  #14

saravrose wrote in post #6381745 (external link)
you will get a little annoyed at his keeper ratio though... The man never pushes the shutter unless it's perfect. :rolleyes:;)

Sari

Hehe but since he got a 1D he HAS used the burst a couple times :lol:

I can attest that it was worth every penny

Ditto.


I would love to go again but the finances are not there this time because first I need a new pc which will drain alot from my savings, second I am considering another trip to Namibia in may which would drain the rest of my savings plus some I don't have yet :lol:


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Sep 26, 2008 01:40 |  #15

Maybe it is the concern about the economy that is making people hesitate. But in terms of booking the parks accommodation you have to get in there 11 months ahead or the best options/all options go due to very high demand.

As I mention above there isn't a way of running these trips cheaper that doesn't risk them becoming just another 'mid-range tourist safari'. So I will give it a little more time and make a decision end October, but meanwhile look at a back-up option for myself in case it doesn't come off next year.


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