disapointed with quality

Hello,

I recently bought a PowerShot Pro 1 camera 8MP and after taking photos I found that the quality is very poor, well, at least not what I expected from a 8MP camera.

Here is the full description of the problem:
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Please, help!!

Nikolai

The Canon Pro1 does not have a full size sensor as do Digital SLRs, for this reason you will find shooting at high ISO' settings greater than 100 will introduce more noise to the picture.

High noise levels in taken photos at high ISO levels is common to all cameras, however cameras with larger ccd sensors tend to allow for higher iso settings with less noise.

Because of the low level of light, it is obvious you have had to resort to a higher iso setting. This brings noise into the equation. Most digitals have a hard enough time with indoor photography without a flash.

You will find that your camera as with all G seriers cameras are capable of superb photo taken, but you will have to use a lower iso setting to truely exploit this capability. Try shooting iso 50 or 100 with a bounced flash (recommend an external flash). and you will see your noise issues dissapear. Nothing wrong with your camera.

Yeah man that quality is so bad. Has to be the camera not the fact that you shot at ISO400

Return the camera ASAP and buy that 20D because that will take better photos than anything else. I mean why bother reading the manual or learning how to use the camera correctly. A more expensive DSLR is the key to quality photos!

I hope you can see the sarcasm in joey's comments !

Joey, Joey, Joey!

Cut the guy a little slack. If you just switched from the world of film, ISO 400 is medium speed! I think most of us shoot at ISO 50 with our G series, no? In the film world ISO 50 is Velvia, and even that comes in ISO 100 now. (Or is that Velveta!?!?)

Besides, I like pictures of deorderant sticks...

Jeff

Suggest a few options for you Nik.

1- Learn how to use your camera in the best possible way, suggest you read your manual, actually go out and practise and compare the setting results, and read these forums, lots of great advice and information here.

2- if your serious about indoor photography or are just looking for great indoor results, nothing comes close to buying an external flash. Your built in flash, honestly with no pun intended is practically useless apart from creating that reindeer headlight look. Id suggest you buy the canon 420ex speedlight (allows bouncing the flash), or the cheaper option is the 220ex with hotshoe flash cord, cheaper again is the index card trick which is documented on these forums... (once again read these forums). Seriously for indoor shots there is no better option than a bounced external flash. It will enable natural lighting to your photos and hence allow you to set a LOW ISO setting. Good bye noise.

3 - Learn how to use your camera settings. You have a sophisticated tool that is capable of far more than you imagine. Did you notice the EOS DSLR style features incorporated into your camera. No

Its not what camera you use, its how you use it.. why do so many people get this so wrong and constantly think that a more powerful, expensive camera will improve their shooting??

See it time and time again on these forums.

Your image quality is normal for ISO400... yes iso400 is alot better on DSLR, but their CCD size is full (or larger than yours - as pointed out correctly) size, thats why they cost so much.

If you stick to ISO 50 - 100 you will have no problems. If how ever you insist on using high ISO settings, i recommend you invest in some noise reduction software like Noise Ninja, that can clear up noise in images to an astonishing level. Check ou the post processing section of these forums......

Hope i have helped, btw nice deoderant stick

And here I thought it was a glue stick. :P

edit:

I thought only the MkII were full size sensors and the likes of the 20D 10D D60 D30 had larger sensors than say a powershot but still had magnification factors hence why you can never get the most out of your wide angle lens and why I refuse to buy a DSLR till they make a full frame for under 2 grand.

But thats gear talk and I hate gear talk cuz everyone gets wrapped up in gear talk than actually taking photographs. So on to the photos! And yeah I would enter the contest but they have a thing of photos being only 640 and no borders... and I like to post 500 wide with borders. So shucks.

Now i get it, youve been using the glue stick as a deoderant and you cant manouvre or hold the camera right??

No wonder the noise HAHAHAHAHHA
better buy a new deodorant, not a new camera.

No seriously,
My point being with no offense intended, just be patient, good photos will come to you with time.

Never mind the noise, THIS explains why I can't raise my hands above my waist, and why I smell funny!

Jeff

And in a round about 1-800 customer service sort of way we answered the OP question on why his photos has so much noise.

Looking at the shadow pattern, it looks like our friend Nikolai used some type of lighting setup...notice the backdrop too. I think the photo is underexposed and also shot at too high an ISO (for mini-sized sensors). Underexposed digital photos exhibit more noise...this is natural. If you want to learn how to properly expose to capture details in both highlights and shadows and minimize noise, I would suggest this link:

http://www.luminous-landscape.com/tutorial​s/expose-right.shtml

Also, shooting RAW will tend to show the noise more since no in-camera noise reduction algorithms have been put into effect. This is important.

I know the Pro-1 is capable of excellent photos. It might be prone to more noise than than a less pixel-dense-sensor camera, but I still think it is capable of performing as you expect in terms of quality, saturation, noise, etc.

I say you can retest this by:

1. Set ISO to 50
2. Properly Expose the image
3. Shoot JPG (for this test)

When comparing image quality and not megapixels, the 20D's larger sensor will yield much better images and has a very usable ISO range of up to 3200. If shooting at variable ISOs with minimal noise is your utmost concern, then opt for the dSLR. If convenience and an easy to use package that you carefully shoot at low ISO and with proper exposure, the Pro-1 will serve you well.

Last one, I promise...

Glue sticks are CHEAPER than a tripod!

pradeep1,

Simply well put !

Nikolai.. i sould suggest you use a tripod next time you shoot in low light. its not a problem at all and practice shooting in Manual mode. it will help you tremendously and will make you shoot better than some people with "bigger cameras".
its all in the technique(with a little help from photoshop)
also, ALWAYS if you can, shoot in ISO 50 and ISO100 only if you don't really have a choice.

- as a project. do a reshoot and set it in iso50 manual mode @f8- of course compensate your shutter speed for proper lighting.