my grandaughter

only had my DLSR (canon eos 450d love it 1st time user) for a few month this is the 1st time changing from colour to B&W
all comments welcome as it will help me to improve

Flash kinda kills the skin tones to me.
The first is good, but not too interesting. The b&w picks up thought as it feels kinda like a farm or barn type shot. Cool Id say.

The color version looks more "alive", but the B & W conversion holds your interest longer.

Congratulations!

I like the color version best, but both are rather bland to my eyes. How did you do the B&W conversion? I disagree with bob that it holds my interest longer. It just looks like a lump of mid tones to me. Here's a conversion that appeals to my eyes:

thanks for the comments all
griptape i used cs3 for the conversion had a 2nd look at both photos and agree with you (both a little bland as you say) like your re-edit alot looks much better but i am just a begainer at all this could you give me a few tips plz

Something happened to one eye in grips.edit?

Instead of a B&W, every so often a desaturation of color can make a different look.

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thanks flo your right i never noticed the eye looks a little cloudy
like what you did but a little bright

I like the original colour shot best and what i like best about the shot is the very natural expression you have captured.
I see you shot it at a 60th of a second at f4.0.
Rather slow for hand held assuming it was not on a tripod but the focus is off seems to be on the top of her forehead rather than the all important eyes which should be pin sharp.
Maybe a bit of camera shake at 1/60th or just missed the focal point.

PETERSYMES wrote in post #6404378
I like the original colour shot best and what i like best about the shot is the very natural expression you have captured.
I see you shot it at a 60th of a second at f4.0.
Rather slow for hand held assuming it was not on a tripod but the focus is off seems to be on the top of her forehead rather than the all important eyes which should be pin sharp.
Maybe a bit of camera shake at 1/60th or just missed the focal point.

thank you
you are right hand held 1/60 & f/4.0 next time i will try to get the eyes
took the shot at a brithday party she just looked up at me & i just snaped it

[QUOTE=griptape;640059​7]I like the color version best, but both are rather bland to my eyes. How did you do the B&W conversion? I disagree with bob that it holds my interest longer. It just looks like a lump of mid tones to me. Here's a conversion that appeals to my eyes:

thanks you all
[thank you all]

Did you pull the color version off? I only see the b/w in someone else's quote.

I don't see the color version but I think the noise doesn't have a good effect on the skin in the B/W version. It makes her skin look very rough and unflattering.

yes i took off the colour and b&w
the other 1 was someone ed

I dont see an image!?

Billkouk if you don't have an image up for critiquing you should ask for the thread to be locked.