Approve the Cookies
This website uses cookies to improve your user experience. By using this site, you agree to our use of cookies and our Privacy Policy.
OK
Forums  •   • New posts  •   • RTAT  •   • 'Best of'  •   • Gallery  •   • Gear
Guest
Forums  •   • New posts  •   • RTAT  •   • 'Best of'  •   • Gallery  •   • Gear
Register to forums    Log in

 
FORUMS General Gear Talk Flash and Studio Lighting 
Thread started 28 Sep 2008 (Sunday) 13:42
Search threadPrev/next
sponsored links (only for non-logged)

Barn Doors or Grids?

 
cbr929rrerion
Senior Member
Avatar
825 posts
Joined Jul 2005
Location: Bristol, Tennessee
     
Sep 28, 2008 13:42 |  #1

I have a limited space in my studio and find I need to adjust or aim or concentrate my lighting more, what would work best for this, I have 3 AB800 and not sure if I need Barn Doors or Grids or one of both.

I was thinking barn doors for the main light and a 20 or 30 degree grid for the second light but can you use these with a softbox?

Thanks to all,

Rick


Canon 1D MKIII :lol:
Canon 1D MK II N :lol:

EF 70-200mm f2.8 L | EF 100-400 L IS | EF 24-70 f2.8 L | 50 f/1.8 II | Sigma EF-500 DG Super | Canon Back Pack

www.crotchrocketracing​.com (external link)
www.2wheelphotosports.​com (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
doidinho
Goldmember
Avatar
3,352 posts
Likes: 23
Joined Aug 2007
Location: Kenmore, Washington
     
Sep 28, 2008 14:21 |  #2

There are separate grids for softboxes. Barndoors and honeycomb grids are both used to control light, but they have different uses. I have both, but I think if you are just going to get one then barndoors would be a good choice. Barndoors will allow you to change the spread of light whereas w/ a honeycomb you are stuck with one spread and would need to move the light toward or away from your subject to change the size of the area of illumination.

The best option would be to get a set of barndoors, a set of honeycomb grids, and possibly a grid for your softbox as well.


Robert McCadden
My Flickr (external link)
MM (external link)
5DMKII, Rebel xti, 24-105 f/4L, Canon 70-200 f/4L, Canon 17-40.

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Hermes
Goldmember
2,375 posts
Joined Mar 2006
Location: London, UK
     
Sep 28, 2008 14:34 |  #3

They have quite different uses.

Barndoors are pretty much flags that attach directly to the strobe - their job is to stop light spilling into unwanted areas (e.g. to stop the key light hitting the background or to stop an edge-light flaring into the lens.

Honeycombs concentrate the light into a round spot with a feathered edge and they have a much tighter spread than is achievable with barndoors so they are good for highlighting a certain element within a shot in a subtle way or putting a spot on the background with a consistent fall-off.

I have plenty of both and use them for different things. If you end up buying both make sure you have enough reflectors to use them separately as there aren't many scenarios which cal for having a grid and barndoors on a single strobe.




  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
cbr929rrerion
THREAD ­ STARTER
Senior Member
Avatar
825 posts
Joined Jul 2005
Location: Bristol, Tennessee
     
Sep 28, 2008 14:59 |  #4

I am trying to stop spill over, when I shoot with a black background I get spill over onto the backdrop, I need to limit that, turning the strobe down does not fix it it makes the subject under exposed..

Do barndoors work correctly with a softbox or does the softbox defeat the purpose?

Thanks all..


Canon 1D MKIII :lol:
Canon 1D MK II N :lol:

EF 70-200mm f2.8 L | EF 100-400 L IS | EF 24-70 f2.8 L | 50 f/1.8 II | Sigma EF-500 DG Super | Canon Back Pack

www.crotchrocketracing​.com (external link)
www.2wheelphotosports.​com (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
doidinho
Goldmember
Avatar
3,352 posts
Likes: 23
Joined Aug 2007
Location: Kenmore, Washington
     
Sep 28, 2008 15:17 |  #5

cbr929rrerion wrote in post #6397246 (external link)
I am trying to stop spill over, when I shoot with a black background I get spill over onto the backdrop, I need to limit that, turning the strobe down does not fix it it makes the subject under exposed..

Do barndoors work correctly with a softbox or does the softbox defeat the purpose?

Thanks all..

No barndoors with a softbox. You will want to use some sort of black flag (a peice of black cardboard, a black reflector, or something like that placed between the softbox anbd the background, but out of the frame.) to prevent spill onto the background with a softbox. A softbox grid may cut down the ammount of light hitting the BG as well depending on how the softbox is positioned. I would start out getting a large piece of foamcore and painting it black and then go from there.


Robert McCadden
My Flickr (external link)
MM (external link)
5DMKII, Rebel xti, 24-105 f/4L, Canon 70-200 f/4L, Canon 17-40.

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Pentaxis
Member
121 posts
Likes: 1
Joined Jan 2007
     
Sep 28, 2008 15:18 |  #6

Can you just pull your subject farther away from the backdrop and put your light closer to the subject?




  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
cbr929rrerion
THREAD ­ STARTER
Senior Member
Avatar
825 posts
Joined Jul 2005
Location: Bristol, Tennessee
     
Sep 28, 2008 15:38 |  #7

No, I am limited on space, I wish I could...


Canon 1D MKIII :lol:
Canon 1D MK II N :lol:

EF 70-200mm f2.8 L | EF 100-400 L IS | EF 24-70 f2.8 L | 50 f/1.8 II | Sigma EF-500 DG Super | Canon Back Pack

www.crotchrocketracing​.com (external link)
www.2wheelphotosports.​com (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Titus213
Cream of the Crop
Avatar
19,403 posts
Gallery: 4 photos
Likes: 36
Joined Feb 2005
Location: Kalama, WA USA
     
Sep 28, 2008 17:49 |  #8

Do you want lots of reading on this?

https://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthre​ad.php?t=251549

At the end of that thread, it's continued in a second......


Dave
Perspiring photographer.
Visit NorwoodPhotos.comexternal link

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
sponsored links (only for non-logged)

1,766 views & 0 likes for this thread, 5 members have posted to it.
Barn Doors or Grids?
FORUMS General Gear Talk Flash and Studio Lighting 
AAA
x 1600
y 1600

Jump to forum...   •  Rules   •  Forums   •  New posts   •  RTAT   •  'Best of'   •  Gallery   •  Gear   •  Reviews   •  Member list   •  Polls   •  Image rules   •  Search   •  Password reset   •  Home

Not a member yet?
Register to forums
Registered members may log in to forums and access all the features: full search, image upload, follow forums, own gear list and ratings, likes, more forums, private messaging, thread follow, notifications, own gallery, all settings, view hosted photos, own reviews, see more and do more... and all is free. Don't be a stranger - register now and start posting!


COOKIES DISCLAIMER: This website uses cookies to improve your user experience. By using this site, you agree to our use of cookies and to our privacy policy.
Privacy policy and cookie usage info.


POWERED BY AMASS forum software 2.58forum software
version 2.58 /
code and design
by Pekka Saarinen ©
for photography-on-the.net

Latest registered member is Aristosan
439 guests, 160 members online
Simultaneous users record so far is 15,144, that happened on Nov 22, 2018

Photography-on-the.net Digital Photography Forums is the website for photographers and all who love great photos, camera and post processing techniques, gear talk, discussion and sharing. Professionals, hobbyists, newbies and those who don't even own a camera -- all are welcome regardless of skill, favourite brand, gear, gender or age. Registering and usage is free.