Approve the Cookies
This website uses cookies to improve your user experience. By using this site, you agree to our use of cookies and our Privacy Policy.
OK
Forums  •   • New posts  •   • RTAT  •   • 'Best of'  •   • Gallery  •   • Gear
Guest
Forums  •   • New posts  •   • RTAT  •   • 'Best of'  •   • Gallery  •   • Gear
Register to forums    Log in

 
FORUMS Cameras, Lenses & Accessories Canon Accessories 
Thread started 29 Sep 2008 (Monday) 10:56
Search threadPrev/next
sponsored links (only for non-logged)

The filter I would like to see...

 
RPCrowe
Cream of the Crop
Avatar
8,331 posts
Gallery: 2 photos
Likes: 2522
Joined Nov 2005
Location: San Diego County, California, USA
     
Sep 29, 2008 10:56 |  #1

The filter I would like to see is a GND that has the cut-off at 1/3 of the field rather than down the middle. I would also like this filter to rotate (like a polarizer) so I could place the 1/3 ND field anywhere in the frame - (top, bottom, left or right). That way, I would not have to switch to a Cokin type setup to effectively use a GND filter.

I hate the standard 50% cut-off on round GND filters because it forces the photographer to stick the horizon in the middle of the image - boring, boring, boring!

Most of the time, I don't even use the GND anymore.


See my images at http://rpcrowe.smugmug​.com/ (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Jon
Cream of the Crop
Avatar
69,628 posts
Likes: 227
Joined Jun 2004
Location: Bethesda, MD USA
     
Sep 29, 2008 11:05 |  #2

That's why most people use the rectangular ones. You can rotate the holders just fine and slide the filter within the holder to put the divide exactly where you want it. With a 1/3 round, what happens when you want the transition at the lower third (foreground dark, sunlit mountains and sky for the upper 2/3)?


Jon
----------
Cocker Spaniels
Maryland and Virginia activities
Image Posting Rules and Image Posting FAQ
Report SPAM, Don't Answer It! (link)
PERSONAL MESSAGING REGARDING SELLING OR BUYING ITEMS WITH MEMBERS WHO HAVE NO POSTS IN FORUMS AND/OR WHO YOU DO NOT KNOW FROM FORUMS IS HEREBY DECLARED STRICTLY STUPID AND YOU WILL GET BURNED.
PAYPAL GIFT NO LONGER ALLOWED HERE

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
milorad
Senior Member
515 posts
Joined Sep 2008
Location: Melbourne, AU
     
Sep 29, 2008 11:07 |  #3

there has to be a point at which you guys will just admit that taking a couple of exposures is better than messing with GND filters.

Solid ND and photoshop all the way.


Gear List (external link) - Yeah baby.

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Jon
Cream of the Crop
Avatar
69,628 posts
Likes: 227
Joined Jun 2004
Location: Bethesda, MD USA
     
Sep 29, 2008 11:21 |  #4

Multiple exposures only works if nothing in the scene moves. Photoshop's not the universal solution some may wish to think it. You'd do well to remember that.


Jon
----------
Cocker Spaniels
Maryland and Virginia activities
Image Posting Rules and Image Posting FAQ
Report SPAM, Don't Answer It! (link)
PERSONAL MESSAGING REGARDING SELLING OR BUYING ITEMS WITH MEMBERS WHO HAVE NO POSTS IN FORUMS AND/OR WHO YOU DO NOT KNOW FROM FORUMS IS HEREBY DECLARED STRICTLY STUPID AND YOU WILL GET BURNED.
PAYPAL GIFT NO LONGER ALLOWED HERE

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
milorad
Senior Member
515 posts
Joined Sep 2008
Location: Melbourne, AU
     
Sep 29, 2008 12:44 |  #5

I'd do well to remember that some people think photoshop is a universal solution? I don't really care what some people think, tbh.

As for me, I think by the time you orient your grad ND *just so* those things moving in your scene are in the next county. The concern only arrises if the moving things in your frame are half-way in and out of your desired ND zone simultaneously. That's pretty rare, but I'll grant you not entirely impossible if your moving object is long/high enough.

I'd wager my gear that I could take two exposures close enough together to make a more then passable fix in PS though.


Gear List (external link) - Yeah baby.

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Travis ­ Ingle
Senior Member
378 posts
Gallery: 1 photo
Likes: 63
Joined Apr 2007
Location: Boise, ID
     
Sep 29, 2008 13:33 as a reply to  @ milorad's post |  #6

....and then there are those that would rather get the exposure right in the camera instead of spending yet even more time in front of thier computer. If photoshop is your best tool you might as well just have a P&S, why bother with any gear? Where has the passion for photography gone? People would rather be on their PC than out in the field.

To each his own, just my $0.02.




  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
milorad
Senior Member
515 posts
Joined Sep 2008
Location: Melbourne, AU
     
Sep 29, 2008 13:51 |  #7

I don't really disagree with you, if it's possible to obtain a better result in-camera.

thing is, grad NDs are always going to be linear gradients, and the application of them isn't ever going to accurately match the scene no matter how you turn and slide it.

this has gone from "grad NDs aren't all that..." to "why do you want to do everything in photoshop you loser?" ... it's not everything that I want to do in PS, only the things I can't do quite as well with a filter...

.. and grad ND is one of those things I think... but you're right, to each their own, sorry for belabouring the point.


Gear List (external link) - Yeah baby.

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Travis ­ Ingle
Senior Member
378 posts
Gallery: 1 photo
Likes: 63
Joined Apr 2007
Location: Boise, ID
     
Sep 29, 2008 14:13 as a reply to  @ milorad's post |  #8

I see your point and my comments were more in general and not directed towards anyone specific. I do a lot of hand blending and gradients in photoshop but I still feel that with the type of shooting I do grad nd's are a very valuable tool.




  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
sponsored links (only for non-logged)

1,250 views & 0 likes for this thread, 4 members have posted to it.
The filter I would like to see...
FORUMS Cameras, Lenses & Accessories Canon Accessories 
AAA
x 1600
y 1600

Jump to forum...   •  Rules   •  Forums   •  New posts   •  RTAT   •  'Best of'   •  Gallery   •  Gear   •  Reviews   •  Member list   •  Polls   •  Image rules   •  Search   •  Password reset   •  Home

Not a member yet?
Register to forums
Registered members may log in to forums and access all the features: full search, image upload, follow forums, own gear list and ratings, likes, more forums, private messaging, thread follow, notifications, own gallery, all settings, view hosted photos, own reviews, see more and do more... and all is free. Don't be a stranger - register now and start posting!


COOKIES DISCLAIMER: This website uses cookies to improve your user experience. By using this site, you agree to our use of cookies and to our privacy policy.
Privacy policy and cookie usage info.


POWERED BY AMASS forum software 2.58forum software
version 2.58 /
code and design
by Pekka Saarinen ©
for photography-on-the.net

Latest registered member was a spammer, and banned as such!
2938 guests, 139 members online
Simultaneous users record so far is 15,144, that happened on Nov 22, 2018

Photography-on-the.net Digital Photography Forums is the website for photographers and all who love great photos, camera and post processing techniques, gear talk, discussion and sharing. Professionals, hobbyists, newbies and those who don't even own a camera -- all are welcome regardless of skill, favourite brand, gear, gender or age. Registering and usage is free.