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Good results with 10D and 580EX

 
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Feb 12, 2005 06:55 |  #1

Just incase anyone else is looking for a flash for their 10D, I thought you might like to know that I've had the 580EX for a week now... Its absolutely fantastic. The flash reduction technology works a treat, and being able to control other slave flash units is excellent.

I definately recommend the 580EX.


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Feb 14, 2005 03:32 |  #2

Totally agree with you.... I had the same experience also... :cool:




  
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Feb 14, 2005 08:41 as a reply to  @ superman123's post |  #3

same here




  
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Feb 14, 2005 09:11 as a reply to  @ L Pagan's post |  #4

Just had the opportunity to use a 20D and 580EX for an extended indoor event - not a single picture missed as a consequence of mis-exposure (of course, composition is a very different matter - think the Digic chip will ever get smart enough to help us out on that one!?!?!!?

I'm a really big fan of the 580 (and also have a 550 and 420) - spot on exposures, and a much friendlier interface, too boot.

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Feb 15, 2005 07:27 as a reply to  @ VonClev's post |  #5

I bought 580EX 5 days ago. It's fantastic.
I have 20D.
But today I was really confused trying to shot friend's car at night.
All shots in P mode came out underexposured. Probably the reflective surface just confuses ETTL system....


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Feb 15, 2005 07:35 as a reply to  @ Kostyanych's post |  #6

Kostyanych wrote:
I bought 580EX 5 days ago. It's fantastic.
I have 20D.
But today I was really confused trying to shot friend's car at night.
All shots in P mode came out underexposured. Probably the reflective surface just confuses ETTL system....

If you shoot raw, you can easily recover the underexposed shots. I did one tonight where I upped the exposure by 2 stops to get it right.... reflective surface again too. But it turned out pretty decent in the end.


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Feb 15, 2005 07:54 as a reply to  @ poke's post |  #7

poke wrote:
If you shoot raw, you can easily recover the underexposed shots. I did one tonight where I upped the exposure by 2 stops to get it right.... reflective surface again too. But it turned out pretty decent in the end.

Yes, sure...
But I still wanna shot it proprely first. It makes all the rest much easier. :)
And I am just trying to find the sollution...
Probably, I will try again tomorrow... :) Just for practice. ;)


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Feb 15, 2005 08:04 |  #8

Your up late for a Sydneyite... PhotoShop bug got you too?? Its a nasty one, keeps you up all hours of the night :p


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Feb 15, 2005 08:17 |  #9

Is there not a night shot mode that will perhaps help with items that do not move, i.e. the car? Might be worth a try just for the experience.


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Feb 15, 2005 13:57 as a reply to  @ RJSorensen's post |  #10

In terms of difficult lighting situations, the best bet is to go from P mode to M mode and adjust both the flash (affecting foreground exposure) and aperture exposure (affecting background exposure) compensations - you may need to use a tripod. You can get great exposures this way......

Chuck

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Feb 16, 2005 07:37 as a reply to  @ VonClev's post |  #11

VonClev wrote:
In terms of difficult lighting situations, the best bet is to go from P mode to M mode and adjust both the flash (affecting foreground exposure) and aperture exposure (affecting background exposure) compensations - you may need to use a tripod. You can get great exposures this way......

You are right. But when you try to shoot "on-the-fly".... :)
I was just suprised getting so underexposured images...


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Feb 16, 2005 07:40 as a reply to  @ poke's post |  #12

poke wrote:
Your up late for a Sydneyite... PhotoShop bug got you too?? Its a nasty one, keeps you up all hours of the night :p

Yes, a little bit.... I am suprised but I can't get to the bed before 3 am...
Unfortunately my wife starts complaining...
And the worst thing is ALARM CLOCK in teh MORNING :evil:


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Feb 16, 2005 08:14 as a reply to  @ VonClev's post |  #13

VonClev wrote:
In terms of difficult lighting situations, the best bet is to go from P mode to M mode and adjust both the flash (affecting foreground exposure) and aperture exposure (affecting background exposure) compensations - you may need to use a tripod. You can get great exposures this way......

Chuck

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this is great if you have time... but often times there is no second chance to bracket and expierment... which is why e-ttl flashes are so popular...its a smame that the e-ttl2 technology in the 580ex doesnt work on the 10d though


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Feb 16, 2005 08:56 as a reply to  @ Mike Panic's post |  #14

Mike Panic wrote:
this is great if you have time... but often times there is no second chance to bracket and expierment... which is why e-ttl flashes are so popular...its a smame that the e-ttl2 technology in the 580ex doesnt work on the 10d though

Actually, there is no ETTL-II technology in the 580EX or any EX series flash, for that matter. The ETTL-II technology is built into the camera itself (the cameras that have it, that is, such as the 20D, 1D2 and 1Ds2). :)


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Feb 16, 2005 12:08 |  #15

sorry - should be more clear - its a shame that the 580ex can't activly use the e-ttl-II technology that the 20d, etc can push thru to it


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