Another Arizona POTN get together (2)?

jbdavies wrote in post #7763639
Just found my next TV for watching movies... Check this thing out... lol I'm in love...

Wait a few months... The new 4K pixel TVs are right around the corner. That thing is only 2K pixels.

Blue-J wrote in post #7763739
Wait a few months... The new 4K pixel TVs are right around the corner. That thing is only 2K pixels.

Ok.

Wow! The DoF is so shallow! Looks wonderful.

jbdavies wrote in post #7764057
Wow! The DoF is so shallow! Looks wonderful.

Thank you F/2.5... not much in focus. LOL

Hatch1921 wrote in post #7764079
Thank you F/2.5... not much in focus. LOL

And all these were just with a reflector and diffuser? Both at the same time... or which ever you decided to use?

jbdavies wrote in post #7764085
And all these were just with a reflector and diffuser? Both at the same time... or which ever you decided to use?

Wedding dress.... full on sun... so... we used a diffusion panel over the top... a reflector for fill.

Rust shots... reflector to push light on her as she was in the shade.

Concrete series... just a reflector... she was in the shade.

A couple of other series... used the Ranger to light them... they didn't look good.... very hard to balance the white dress with the darker skin tones...

Very pleased with all the natural light stuff...

Garage door shot... a reflector from about 30ft away...again... she was in the shade.

At one point... used the silver reflector to push light in to the diffusion panel to get nice soft light on her.

Good times!

Hatch1921 wrote in post #7764109
Wedding dress.... full on sun... so... we used a diffusion panel over the top... a reflector for fill.

Rust shots... reflector to push light on her as she was in the shade.

Concrete series... just a reflector... she was in the shade.

A couple of other series... used the Ranger to light them... they didn't look good.... very hard to balance the white dress with the darker skin tones...

Very pleased with all the natural light stuff...

Garage door shot... a reflector from about 30ft away...again... she was in the shade.

At one point... used the silver reflector to push light in to the diffusion panel to get nice soft light on her.

Good times!

That's intense. lol Definitely turned out very nice.

jbdavies wrote in post #7764122
That's intense. lol Definitely turned out very nice.

Not as bad as you think... it's a matter of looking at the eyes and seeing if you are getting the catchlights and the general lighting you want for the shot. We made plenty of mistakes... always do... great learning experience all around...

Hatch1921 wrote in post #7764145
Not as bad as you think... it's a matter of looking at the eyes and seeing if you are getting the catchlights and the general lighting you want for the shot. We made plenty of mistakes... always do... great learning experience all around...

Are you using a hand-held meter for these sessions?

FlyingPhotog wrote in post #7764148
Are you using a hand-held meter for these sessions?

No sir... just keeping an eye on the exposures on the back of the camera.... at times I pushed the images 2 stops over just to get her face to expose properly...which... made things difficult when it came to the white dress shots... very good learning experience.

Hatch1921 wrote in post #7764157
No sir... just keeping an eye on the exposures on the back of the camera.... at times I pushed the images 2 stops over just to get her face to expose properly...which... made things difficult when it came to the white dress shots... very good learning experience.

Far be it from me to tell you anything but...

You'd take a lot of the guesswork out of the process with a meter.

Light Skin, Dark Skin, Martian Skin... Doesn't matter what you're shooting.

1/125 @ f/2 ISO 100 is 1/125 @ f/2 ISO 100. The meter won't lie and can't be fooled by white clothing or dark skin (provided you're metering incident and not reflected light.)

FlyingPhotog wrote in post #7764216
Far be it from me to tell you anything but...

You'd take a lot of the guesswork out of the process with a meter.

Light Skin, Dark Skin, Martian Skin... Doesn't matter what you're shooting.

1/125 @ f/2 ISO 100 is 1/125 @ f/2 ISO 100. The meter won't lie and can't be fooled by white clothing or dark skin (provided you're metering incident and not reflected light.)

The situation....

Model has darker skin
Model is in bright white dress
Model is in the super duper bright Arizona sun.

So... we bring in a duffsion panel to soften the harsh light... drops the exposure on her face/hair by a stop or more...

We then have to push light back on her to get the catchlights.. .and the bring her to life...without blowing out the whites... the contrasting scene...with a meter or without... wouldn't make a difference IMO. I could have metered for the dress... then the face...and went with and average... but... something would have been under exposed or over exposed.

Or... am I missing something... I could bust out with the meter next time out...

The garage situation... full shade... darker skin tones... white dress... had to push the light back on her to expose for skin tones... starts to clip the whites...

It was a rough shoot... LOL

I think what Jay is saying, and I'd agree, is if the same light is hitting both the dress and her face, then there really should be one exposure. The problem is what makes a good looking exposure for both skin tones and the dress. From what you are saying, her skin looks best if it is overexposed a bit, and the dress needs to be somewhat underexposed to keep detail.

There are a few things you can do here. One of them is getting the diffusion panel closest to her face and further from the dress. That will bring into play the inverse square law and should keep her face brighter than the dress.

BrianAZ wrote in post #7764327
I think what Jay is saying, and I'd agree, is if the same light is hitting both the dress and her face, then there really should be one exposure. The problem is what makes a good looking exposure for both skin tones and the dress. From what you are saying, her skin looks best if it is overexposed a bit, and the dress needs to be somewhat underexposed to keep detail.

There are a few things you can do here. One of them is getting the diffusion panel closest to her face and further from the dress. That will bring into play the inverse square law and should keep her face brighter than the dress.

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