Who else is steady like a rock?

Nice one on the cymbal.

advaitin wrote in post #7024171
Both shots at max ISO, 1600 and f4, IS on. One shot at 0.3s and the second at 1/6s.

BZZZZZT... sorry, but that is electronic stabilization.

Here is another from the same time

Camera:Canon EOS 5D
Exposure:0.6 sec
Aperture:f/22
Focal Length:24 mm
ISO Speed:100

No IS!

Which only goes so far, Bud. Back in the day, I was quite proud of shooting film at 1/4s and getting printable images. Once in a while I'd find myself in dire straits and have to shoot longer--to or past a second--and still manage one out of four or five exposures using rifle-shooting technique and bracing against a solid post or wall. 0.16 and 0.30 of a second handheld without being able to brace against something solid, even with image stabilization, is no bad feat.

Apparent sharpness is always helped by having a wideangle lens, but the 17-85 is no speed demon, aperture-wise. Fireworks expose themselves regardless of the steadiness of the hand on the camera. So Bzzzzt yourself, because I saw no stipulation earlier on IS or no.

advaitin wrote in post #7031934
I saw no stipulation earlier on IS or no.

It's his thread, he can make a new rule whenever he wants.

genodm wrote in post #7032456
It's his thread, he can make a new rule whenever he wants.

All righty, then. I had to dig into my files, but here is one of a series that were as sharp as ISO 3200 on a Canon 20D gets without any extra sharpening. The whole series was shot handheld without flash (or fireworks) with a 16-35mm at f2.8. This image was at 35mm and the shutter speed was 1/15s.

All things considered, higher ISO should be banned, too.

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advaitin wrote in post #7033283
All things considered, higher ISO should be banned, too.

Why? half a second is half a second be it at 50 ISO or 1600

neil_r wrote in post #7037376
Why? half a second is half a second be it at 50 ISO or 1600

What you can capture in that half second makes the difference. Shades of gray...

advaitin wrote in post #7038773
What you can capture in that half second makes the difference. Shades of gray...

huh?

TopGear1Ds wrote in post #7038793
huh?

Sorry, I often make references to obscure or esoteric quotations. In this case Heinleinesque. On the other hand, how many shades of gray are there to a black cat in a darkened room? Maybe 3200 ISO and a steady hand would help?

Ok, but I'm still not sure why you want to disqualify high ISO shots

Hoff... Try this on for size! 1 second with bluring moving objects with IS on! Im not steady at all but that 1 second hold shot you posted was awesome. They make IS glass for people like me, but thats ok I buy IS glass because I am me. Those pictures of people holding for that long with that much sharpness is just awesome.

I don't know how you people do it. Anything below 1/60th or so w/o IS and I might as well not take the shot if it's not an extremely short focal length

ryant35 wrote in post #7003255
Not that slow of a shutter but it's a big lens to handhold.
1/100 sec, f/5.6, iso 1250, 600mm

This would have been more impressive if it was shot with a 50mm lens, lets see you not shake taking that picture!!!

FlyingPhotog wrote in post #6899876
Both 1/125 @ 400mm

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1/100 @ 420mm

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they don't count, they're not stationary, as you are infact panning

this however was a stationary aircraft..

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