Approve the Cookies
This website uses cookies to improve your user experience. By using this site, you agree to our use of cookies and our Privacy Policy.
OK
Forums  •   • New posts  •   • RTAT  •   • 'Best of'  •   • Gallery  •   • Gear
Guest
Forums  •   • New posts  •   • RTAT  •   • 'Best of'  •   • Gallery  •   • Gear
Register to forums    Log in

 
FORUMS Cameras, Lenses & Accessories Canon Accessories 
Thread started 04 Oct 2008 (Saturday) 04:31
Search threadPrev/next
sponsored links (only for non-logged)

How do I lubricate my balls?

 
siejones
Goldmember
Avatar
1,267 posts
Joined Aug 2006
Location: UK
     
Oct 04, 2008 04:31 |  #1

I have a couple of tripod ball heads one being a manfrotto MN486rc2. It's about 2 years old and is becoming harder and harder to use. With only the slightest tightening movement becomes a very jerky affair which of coarse if useless for slight composition changes. I notice there is little to no lubricant left on the ball which going to be the cause but how do I relube?

I am presuming I can't just slap any old grease on there? Is there an accpeted method for this?

I have recently purchased a Gitzo lightweight ballhead and it's wonderful to use with smooth movement. I wouldn't want this to go the same way.


Technical perfection is only ever important if it improves the asthetic. It is not the precursor to beauty. Not in art..not in music and not in photography!

My Flickr account link (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
milorad
Senior Member
515 posts
Joined Sep 2008
Location: Melbourne, AU
     
Oct 04, 2008 04:40 |  #2

if ever there was a thread for the ladies... :)

the only ball I've ever used wasn't lubed, and also wasn't mine. I'm not a big fan of balls to be honest, so I tend to go with pan/tilt options, which are ribbed for her pleasure.

best thread title all week ;)


Gear List (external link) - Yeah baby.

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
siejones
THREAD ­ STARTER
Goldmember
Avatar
1,267 posts
Joined Aug 2006
Location: UK
     
Oct 04, 2008 04:47 |  #3

milorad wrote in post #6435098 (external link)
if ever there was a thread for the ladies... :)

the only ball I've ever used wasn't lubed, and also wasn't mine. I'm not a big fan of balls to be honest, so I tend to go with pan/tilt options, which are ribbed for her pleasure.

best thread title all week ;)

lol :lol: sorry I couldn't resist :oops::lol:

I have a pan/tilt as well for the same reasons but recently I was looking for a super lightweight tripod solution for backpacking and decided on a (bank breaking) gitzo setup but the best all round head turned out to be a ball head. It's really is superb and kind of counteracts every reason why I went back to a pan/tilt in the first place. I just want to make sure it stays that way and I want to at least try and bring my manfrotto one back to life.


Technical perfection is only ever important if it improves the asthetic. It is not the precursor to beauty. Not in art..not in music and not in photography!

My Flickr account link (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
SkipD
Cream of the Crop
Avatar
20,476 posts
Likes: 165
Joined Dec 2002
Location: Southeastern WI, USA
     
Oct 04, 2008 05:48 |  #4

Instructions for the Manfrotto ball heads that I own (484RC2, 486RC2, and 488RC2) all say that you should NOT lubricate the balls.

Merely cleaning the ball (by wiping all of its surface with a lint-free rag) should be enough to provide free operation again. It's likely that dirt/grit has gotten onto the ball.


Skip Douglas
A few cameras and over 50 years behind them .....
..... but still learning all the time.

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
siejones
THREAD ­ STARTER
Goldmember
Avatar
1,267 posts
Joined Aug 2006
Location: UK
     
Oct 04, 2008 05:58 |  #5

SkipD wrote in post #6435223 (external link)
Instructions for the Manfrotto ball heads that I own (484RC2, 486RC2, and 488RC2) all say that you should NOT lubricate the balls.

Merely cleaning the ball (by wiping all of its surface with a lint-free rag) should be enough to provide free operation again. It's likely that dirt/grit has gotten onto the ball.

Funny you just said that but that's exactly what I have just tried. By the the looks of things I can't dismantle it so I just turned the ball around bit by bit wipeing it. Problem is that it's now worse than before :(

Thing is they do come with a lubricant on them (I have stained clothes to prove it) so it's wierd they should say not to re-lube them.

I have found this:

http://www.earthboundl​ight.com …ing-tripod-ball-head.html (external link)

I might give it a try.


Technical perfection is only ever important if it improves the asthetic. It is not the precursor to beauty. Not in art..not in music and not in photography!

My Flickr account link (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Deckham
Senior Member
814 posts
Joined Jun 2007
Location: Melbourne, Australia
     
Oct 04, 2008 06:12 as a reply to  @ siejones's post |  #6

Lithium Grease should be safe.

But....your risk ;)


Lulu Clake (external link)
Zenfolio  (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
SkipD
Cream of the Crop
Avatar
20,476 posts
Likes: 165
Joined Dec 2002
Location: Southeastern WI, USA
     
Oct 04, 2008 07:05 |  #7

Deckham wrote in post #6435254 (external link)
Lithium Grease should be safe.

But....your risk ;)

Think about the subject for a moment or two....

1. We want our ball heads to be able to lock up without creeping, even though we put several pounds on them and then tip them 90° to the side.

2. Almost any fluid lubricant I can think of, such as greases, oils, etc., will cause dust and other particulates such as sand to adhere to the lubricant. That would be quite the opposite of what you really want, as the particulates would wind being ground into the surface of the ball and whatever is used to clamp it. With a metallic ball and clamp, it probably would not be damaging, but my ball heads all have some sort of plastic balls and I would rather just keep them clean.

The article mentioned two posts back really supports what I'm saying, as the use of WD-40 is NOT as a lubricant, but as a cleaning agent.


Skip Douglas
A few cameras and over 50 years behind them .....
..... but still learning all the time.

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
JRB
Senior Member
Avatar
457 posts
Gallery: 1 photo
Joined Jul 2007
Location: Metro Detroit, Michigan
     
Oct 04, 2008 07:15 as a reply to  @ post 6435372 |  #8

I second the WD-40, spray it on and really wipe it off thoroughly. Works great, no slip. Just be sure to wipe it off good.


JR

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Deckham
Senior Member
814 posts
Joined Jun 2007
Location: Melbourne, Australia
     
Oct 04, 2008 07:19 |  #9

SkipD wrote in post #6435381 (external link)
Think about the subject for a moment or two....

1. We want our ball heads to be able to lock up without creeping, even though we put several pounds on them and then tip them 90° to the side.

2. Almost any fluid lubricant I can think of, such as greases, oils, etc., will cause dust and other particulates such as sand to adhere to the lubricant. That would be quite the opposite of what you really want, as the particulates would wind being ground into the surface of the ball and whatever is used to clamp it. With a metallic ball and clamp, it probably would not be damaging, but my ball heads all have some sort of plastic balls and I would rather just keep them clean.

The article mentioned two posts back really supports what I'm saying, as the use of WD-40 is NOT as a lubricant, but as a cleaning

Good points.


Lulu Clake (external link)
Zenfolio  (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
siejones
THREAD ­ STARTER
Goldmember
Avatar
1,267 posts
Joined Aug 2006
Location: UK
     
Oct 04, 2008 07:21 |  #10

SkipD wrote in post #6435381 (external link)
Think about the subject for a moment or two....

1. We want our ball heads to be able to lock up without creeping, even though we put several pounds on them and then tip them 90° to the side.

2. Almost any fluid lubricant I can think of, such as greases, oils, etc., will cause dust and other particulates such as sand to adhere to the lubricant. That would be quite the opposite of what you really want, as the particulates would wind being ground into the surface of the ball and whatever is used to clamp it. With a metallic ball and clamp, it probably would not be damaging, but my ball heads all have some sort of plastic balls and I would rather just keep them clean.

The article mentioned two posts back really supports what I'm saying, as the use of WD-40 is NOT as a lubricant, but as a cleaning

I understand what your saying but how come they come with a grease on and why not apply the same grease if it's what they put on in the first place? That part just doesn't make any sence to me.


Technical perfection is only ever important if it improves the asthetic. It is not the precursor to beauty. Not in art..not in music and not in photography!

My Flickr account link (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Sp00ks
Goldmember
Avatar
1,654 posts
Joined Apr 2006
Location: Raleigh, NC
     
Oct 04, 2008 07:31 |  #11

I bought a used grip style head a few years ago and it squeaked. Drove me nutz! I applied a little vasoline and I haven't had to touch it since.


http://www.shutterup.n​et (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
SkipD
Cream of the Crop
Avatar
20,476 posts
Likes: 165
Joined Dec 2002
Location: Southeastern WI, USA
     
Oct 04, 2008 08:06 |  #12

siejones wrote in post #6435430 (external link)
I understand what your saying but how come they come with a grease on and why not apply the same grease if it's what they put on in the first place? That part just doesn't make any sence to me.

The real problem is figuring out WHAT the factory puts on the ball and HOW (and why) they apply it. The factory says, in their literature, that nothing should be applied by the users.


Skip Douglas
A few cameras and over 50 years behind them .....
..... but still learning all the time.

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
milorad
Senior Member
515 posts
Joined Sep 2008
Location: Melbourne, AU
     
Oct 04, 2008 08:35 |  #13

I can't remember where I read it, whether on the RRS site, or another arca-swiss style ball manufacturer, but they mentioned explicitly that you shouldn't put anything on their ball... but that it does come with grease on it which is intended to preserve the mechanism in long-term storage only.

If I remember right (not sure I do) but I think they suggested wiping it off prior to use. That seems to make the most sense, but don't quote me, I'm not a ball user, I don't own one and I never will.


Gear List (external link) - Yeah baby.

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Wilt
Reader's Digest Condensed version of War and Peace [POTN Vol 1]
Avatar
46,487 posts
Gallery: 1 photo
Likes: 4582
Joined Aug 2005
Location: Belmont, CA
     
Oct 04, 2008 08:37 |  #14

Simply keep your balls clean, you should not lubricate them as that will simply leave something for dust to adhere to. You don't want idle balls becoming dusty balls, nor do you want them to become unnecessarily soiled thru use.


You need to give me OK to edit your image and repost! Keep POTN alive and well with member support https://photography-on-the.net/forum/donate.p​hp
Canon dSLR system, Olympus OM 35mm system, Bronica ETRSi 645 system, Horseman LS 4x5 system, Metz flashes, Dynalite studio lighting, and too many accessories to mention

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
argyle
Cream of the Crop
Avatar
8,187 posts
Likes: 24
Joined Apr 2007
Location: DFW, Texas
     
Oct 04, 2008 09:11 as a reply to  @ Wilt's post |  #15

A friend of mine had a sticky RRS BH40 ballhead...a very light coat of automobile paste wax did the trick. Makes the surface smooth, without any potential for dirt and other contaminants to stick as with a grease or oil. Just apply it through the drop slot while turning the ball, then the same process when wiping it off. Just don't over-apply.


"Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life, son". - Dean Wormer

GEAR LIST

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
sponsored links (only for non-logged)

4,524 views & 0 likes for this thread, 16 members have posted to it.
How do I lubricate my balls?
FORUMS Cameras, Lenses & Accessories Canon Accessories 
AAA
x 1600
y 1600

Jump to forum...   •  Rules   •  Forums   •  New posts   •  RTAT   •  'Best of'   •  Gallery   •  Gear   •  Reviews   •  Member list   •  Polls   •  Image rules   •  Search   •  Password reset   •  Home

Not a member yet?
Register to forums
Registered members may log in to forums and access all the features: full search, image upload, follow forums, own gear list and ratings, likes, more forums, private messaging, thread follow, notifications, own gallery, all settings, view hosted photos, own reviews, see more and do more... and all is free. Don't be a stranger - register now and start posting!


COOKIES DISCLAIMER: This website uses cookies to improve your user experience. By using this site, you agree to our use of cookies and to our privacy policy.
Privacy policy and cookie usage info.


POWERED BY AMASS forum software 2.58forum software
version 2.58 /
code and design
by Pekka Saarinen ©
for photography-on-the.net

Latest registered member was a spammer, and banned as such!
2843 guests, 138 members online
Simultaneous users record so far is 15,144, that happened on Nov 22, 2018

Photography-on-the.net Digital Photography Forums is the website for photographers and all who love great photos, camera and post processing techniques, gear talk, discussion and sharing. Professionals, hobbyists, newbies and those who don't even own a camera -- all are welcome regardless of skill, favourite brand, gear, gender or age. Registering and usage is free.