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Oct 06, 2008 23:15 |  #1

Do any of you use firewire external hard drives? I have a USB 2.0 back up hard drive and it's much too slow.

Are the firewire external drives much faster

Also which one do you have or recommend?


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Oct 06, 2008 23:17 |  #2

Yes, much faster. I bought an enclosure and put my own drives in.


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Oct 07, 2008 07:17 |  #3

Firewire 400 is a bit faster. FW 800 a lot.
eSata is faster still...


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Oct 07, 2008 09:48 as a reply to  @ René Damkot's post |  #4

My main photo drive is an external FW. It seems plenty fast for me. My backup drive is USB2.




  
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Oct 07, 2008 10:02 as a reply to  @ egordon99's post |  #5

eSata is the way to go hands down. I just built a 1tb eSata external for under $200 :lol:....Jeff

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Oct 07, 2008 11:13 |  #6

jmik26 wrote in post #6452930 (external link)
eSata is the way to go hands down. I just built a 1tb eSata external for under $200 :lol:....Jeff

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Nice. I did a 2TB eSATA array for about $310.


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Oct 07, 2008 11:40 |  #7

Does firewire 800 vs 400 refer to the type of connection my computer has? I have a firewire connection, but am not sure what type it is. Or does the 800 vs 400 refer to the external memory transfer speed itself? In that case I won't have to worry since I have a firewire port anyway correct?


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Oct 07, 2008 11:44 |  #8

Yup it is the external port; they have different connectors. If you have Firewire 800 on your PC, you can get a 400 to 800 cable but not the other way around.

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Oct 07, 2008 11:50 |  #9

honestly, for external storage it mostly depends on the controller's ability to actually DELIVER on the standard it's supposedly rated for.

... and on the ability of the box you connect to it, to deliver on your drive's read/write performance, and on the amount of caching it offers.

With the majority of USB/Firewire/eSata boxes you can connect to your computer, the standard used for connectivity isn't the bottleneck at all. It's the drives themselves, and/or the RAID controller employed to run them.

400MB/sec is heaps more than a couple of cheap drives and a $10 RAID controller can handle.... so using firewire 800 isn't going to give you any benefit whatsoever.

The only time you might notice, is if your REALLY EXCELLENT storage box is connected to a very cheap and crappy firewire 400 port, which only really manages to give you 50meg/sec... so upgrading to an equally crappy firewire 800 which gives you 150meg/sec brings on a dramatic improvement.

These numbers you're given in specs are asymptotes. There's a reason that top shelf storage costs so VERY VERY much more than the crap you're using, even though they supposedly use the same technology.


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Oct 07, 2008 13:27 as a reply to  @ milorad's post |  #10

FW-800 works well, especially with Apple gear. IIRC, the last time I bought a FW-400 card for a PC, I paid about $20. FW-400 connector looks like a little boat; FW-800 is squarish. FW-800 is downward compatible to FW-400; i.e. you can get a cable to run a FW-400 device from a FW-800 port.


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