How do you eliminate facial shadows with bounce flash?

Can't recommend tupperware, with a little understanding it becomes unnecessary.

Just Be wrote in post #6495978
+1 for mini soft box. The Westcott is fantastic!

queenbee288 wrote in post #6496722
-1 for the mini softbox. I have the Westcott and I found it to be a waste of money.

For this it probably is a waste, bouncing is more effective.

AdamC wrote in post #6498855
Does the 430 have that? Or only the 580?

580 only.

Dermit wrote in post #6488733
...actually quite the opposite is true. A light quality on a subject gets harsher (more defined shadows/hard edges) the further away you are.

To expand on this, you're correct only if the light is going direct, in in this case since the light is bounced the light source is effectively the ceiling. This means your position makes no difference in that regard.

tim wrote in post #6499038
580 only.

Incorrect I have a 430EX (Version I) and it has the pull out diffuser panel. When you pull it out the zoom setting changes to 14mm.

I'll include a picture the 430EX firing with the panel down just to prove it.

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ryant35 wrote in post #6497330
Point the flash up and lift out the diffuser screen and leave it pointing up so it reflects a some light forward. The manual calls it something like catch light for eyes, or something like that...

Using the "catch light" card on the 580... it's white, seperate from the diffuser, you should not be seeing bad shadows under eyes etc. or have to spend money on other "stuff"...for head and shoulder shots. Works quite well, in conjunction with biuncing the flash of walls/ceiling, imo.

KarlosDaJackal what was meant was to use the 580's 'Catch light" feature that the 430 does not have .

dpds68 wrote in post #6499213
KarlosDaJackal what was meant was to use the 580's 'Catch light" feature that the 430 does not have .

That was my point earlier. The OP has a 430, so no bouncecard. He could easily purchase one though, and just strap it to the 430 with a rubber band or whatever.

^^ That's what I use on my 430EX a Index Card and instead of a Rubber Band I use one of those rubber straps from a Laptop Power Supply .

dpds68 wrote in post #6499213
KarlosDaJackal what was meant was to use the 580's 'Catch light" feature that the 430 does not have .

Cool, didn't know about that, guess I learned something today

Why would you want to get rid of shadows? Placed properly, shadows give amazing relief and depth to a photograph. To place the shadow where you want it you have to take the flash off the camera though. If you still want to get rid of all shadows, stick a reflector on the subject's lap, in this case, on the floor, in front of subjects paws.

No bounce card on the 430EX but you can leave the diffuser in the same position as the bounce card and get a similar effect.

I have found nothing that works better and its CHEAP and disposable.

timrocks311 wrote in post #6483267
i'm wondering how you all go about getting rid of facial shadows under someone's chin or nose.

Don't shoot pictures of peeps with such long noses.