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Oct 13, 2008 03:35 |  #1

... that will work in the configuration below?

ATM, I have a 550EX and 430EX.

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  • no flash on the camera ;)

  • solution can not be affected by EX pre-flashes.. :mad:
  • E-TTL would also be AWESOME! :D

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Since POTN people are the smartest in the world, I figure this can be answered with minimal effort.

Also, it would be awesome if the solution would work with any number of off-camera flashes.

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Oct 13, 2008 03:51 |  #2

I use a knock off of the Cactus Triggers which cost me £14 and work on RF.

No ETTL but manual works great! Trigger pops on camera and receiver goes on 580EX II (I know you have a 550EX) and then the 430EX is fired as a slave.

Maybe pick up two sets for two receivers.


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Oct 13, 2008 08:04 |  #3

radio poppers should give you full ETTL?


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Oct 13, 2008 09:54 |  #4

mrklaw wrote in post #6486763 (external link)
radio poppers should give you full ETTL?

Radio Popper's still require you to have some sort of Master on the camera itself. They would need one transmitter and two receivers.

If you're willing to go full manual, CyberSync's and the appropriate adapters is a solid choice.

As one posted mentioned Certain version's of the Cactus trigger may work out as well...

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Oct 13, 2008 10:27 |  #5

You could build/buy an extended off-shoe cord, hook it to the 550EX and still use ETTL.

Or you could get another 430EX and use it in place of the 550EX, put the 550EX on camera with no flash.


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Oct 13, 2008 10:30 |  #6

Titus213 wrote in post #6487479 (external link)
You could build/buy an extended off-shoe cord, hook it to the 550EX and still use ETTL.

Or you could get another 430EX and use it in place of the 550EX, put the 550EX on camera with no flash.

I was thinking that too, but the illustration he was showing looked too far away without extending the off-camera cord.

Perhaps more information on placement would be useful...

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Oct 13, 2008 10:42 |  #7

Titus213 wrote in post #6487479 (external link)
You could build/buy an extended off-shoe cord, hook it to the 550EX and still use ETTL.

Or you could get another 430EX and use it in place of the 550EX, put the 550EX on camera with no flash.

+1

There's a company that sells extended ETTL cords but it costs almost as much as a used ST-E2

If the 550 can be a master you can certainly use it to trigger two 430s.

The setup you have indicated would give you flat results at 1:1 ratio. You might have to vary the ratio to get the result you want.

If you have a regular off-shoe cord, you can attach the 550 to it, setup an umbrella on a stand close to the camera and hand-hold the flash while you shoot.


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Oct 13, 2008 15:40 |  #8

If you can use a soldering iron, give it a try at extending a off-shoe cord. There are insructions on this site about how to do it. I did mine(took a little time to make)and it works great. Cheaper than buying a new flash.


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Oct 13, 2008 16:53 |  #9

Here is a thread that descibes how to lengthen the Canon Off Camaera Shoe Cord:

https://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthre​ad.php?t=123662

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Oct 13, 2008 17:11 |  #10

I'd ditch E-TTL in a studio environment. Once you do that, you can get wireless at reasonable cost.


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Oct 13, 2008 19:36 |  #11

The cable extension that uses network connectors was pretty easy to make. I'm decent with a soldering iron, but couldn't get the DIN connectors to work.

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Oct 14, 2008 02:36 |  #12

elysium wrote in post #6485957 (external link)
I use a knock off of the Cactus Triggers which cost me £14 and work on RF.

No ETTL but manual works great! Trigger pops on camera and receiver goes on 580EX II (I know you have a 550EX) and then the 430EX is fired as a slave.

Maybe pick up two sets for two receivers.

Those don't look too bad if I go non-ETTL.

m3rdpwr wrote in post #6487301 (external link)
Radio Popper's still require you to have some sort of Master on the camera itself. They would need one transmitter and two receivers.

If you're willing to go full manual, CyberSync's and the appropriate adapters is a solid choice.

As one posted mentioned Certain version's of the Cactus trigger may work out as well...

-Mario

The poppers look like a great option other then they are REALLY expensive. And the reality is, I doubt that I will need the full wireless capabilities ATM - line of site should work.

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You could build/buy an extended off-shoe cord, hook it to the 550EX and still use ETTL.

Or you could get another 430EX and use it in place of the 550EX, put the 550EX on camera with no flash.

I tried to use the 550 as a master with no flash but the 430 would not trigger. Did I miss a step to get that to work? The 550 manual said that for that scenario to work, all the flashes would have to be 550's.

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I'd ditch E-TTL in a studio environment. Once you do that, you can get wireless at reasonable cost.

That may be an option :confused:

hastur wrote in post #6490303 (external link)
The cable extension that uses network connectors was pretty easy to make. I'm decent with a soldering iron, but couldn't get the DIN connectors to work.

Have Fun,

Rob

I have a cable now and it is just WAY too restricting - especially in the field.


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Oct 14, 2008 10:21 |  #13

Yes, the 550EX manual does say that but I use my 550EX to trip my 430EX with no issues. As with any ETTL the master has to be visible to the slave. 550EX has to be in Master on the switch, 430EX in slave and on the same channel.


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